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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:37 pm 
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Suzuki sold (new) a handful of AWD 1.6 SOHC Suzuki Swift sedans.

Fast Fours and Rotaries featured one years ago. The DOHC head from the 1.3 GTi bolts onto the 1.6 SOHC block. Drivetrain is probably as per Cultis. Hmmm, 1.6L AWD Mini? Could be an interesting project if you can find one. :)

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Is anyone doing one of these (or Starlet) conversions in NSW? It seems that all these are being done in QLD.
Would love to do one but can't really move to QLD to do it!

Also has anyone sorted out a subframe kit to sell yet?

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GMJ wrote:
Is anyone doing one of these (or Starlet) conversions in NSW? It seems that all these are being done in QLD.
Would love to do one but can't really move to QLD to do it!

Also has anyone sorted out a subframe kit to sell yet?

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Mine is on the rd 100% legal in NSW. Im running the 4efte (starlet gt) motor. There is at least 3 or 4 suzuki gti engined minis in NSW also on the rd. No one doing frame kits, there just isnt the market for it, but any good automotive welding / fabricating shop could do it.

DO i search on the net, there are plenty of sites that show pics of there conversions.

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mate NSW is the place to be if doing one of these conversions
ive been searching for 4 months to find the swift motor at the right price to go in my conversion and have only come across 2 so far
one of which was sold today in NSW while I was trying to organise transport to get it up here
not happy at all i'll tell ya
did someone on here beat me to it?
"Suzuki Swift GTi 1987 twin cam 5 speed, stereo, 1/9/2005 rego, mags, body kit, nice sporty hatch, WJV-887, was $2750, now $1990, DL-19072. John's Motor Market, Cnr Chapel & Rickard Roads BANKSTOWN 02-9707 3656 "


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Thanks people, looks like I had better get my act together.

Just have to sell my other car and will start looking for a GTI. I think it might be tough to fit a Starlet GT in a round nose.

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Talk about people beating people out of Engine's Rising Star.... That was my Starlet GT Engine

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I've been reading this thread for months & no one has meantioned final drive
ratios, or RPM vs MPH
Think about this
Std Cooper 'S' 3.44 diff 10" wheels @ 6500 = 107Mph in 4th
Mk1 or mk2/3 GTI 4.105 diff 10" wheels @ 6500 = 118Mph in 5th
Barina Mk2/3 3.523 diff 10" wheels @ 6500 = 143Mph in 5th
Std GTI 14" wheels @ 6500 + 138Mph
The Holden Barina g/box is more readily available & cheaper than
a Gti box & has the same internal ratios......NO you cannot just change
the diff. Also Mk1 & Mk2/3 gearbox internals are not interchangeable so
decide which gearbox you are going to use before you start.
Clutch slave cylinder use IBS p/n JB4130 mount it near reverse s/w & modify
clutch operating arm to bend about 45deg. Slave cylinder about $25

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 Post subject: Re: GTI Conversion
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blumin wrote:
I've been reading this thread for months & no one has meantioned final drive
ratios, or RPM vs MPH
Think about this
Std Cooper 'S' 3.44 diff 10" wheels @ 6500 = 107Mph in 4th
Mk1 or mk2/3 GTI 4.105 diff 10" wheels @ 6500 = 118Mph in 5th
Barina Mk2/3 3.523 diff 10" wheels @ 6500 = 143Mph in 5th
Std GTI 14" wheels @ 6500 + 138Mph
The Holden Barina g/box is more readily available & cheaper than
a Gti box & has the same internal ratios......NO you cannot just change
the diff. Also Mk1 & Mk2/3 gearbox internals are not interchangeable so
decide which gearbox you are going to use before you start.
Clutch slave cylinder use IBS p/n JB4130 mount it near reverse s/w & modify
clutch operating arm to bend about 45deg. Slave cylinder about $25


Welcome Blumin, set a spell....

I know that MINSTAR has put some thought into this with his Starlet conversion as well (5 speeds). What we talked about was the rolling diameter you can achieve on a roundy or clubby with say 12 or 13 inch rims. If you compare little Suzi wheels with say 12s there ain't all that much difference in rolling diameter. Not an exact science but "close enough".

The resultant loss of top end speed is likely to be bearable and could mean peoples licences will be kept longer :wink: , however, the increase in acceleration could stress the standard drivetrain a tad.

Controlling the beast will be another thing!!

I assume from the above that you are saying the Barina box fits under the Suzi without modification? Uses the same mounting points as the Gti box??

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blumin wrote:
near reverse s/w


What does this mean?

Appreciate the info. Gearbox choice is limited by what's available. I have sourced a Mk1 GTi and he is throwing in another MK1 gearbox that he says is exactly the same. If it's a standard swift box, does it have a lower diff ratio?

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blumin wrote:
near reverse s/w


What does this mean?


It means near reverse switch. :wink:

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drmini in aust wrote:
Whitestriped63 wrote:
blumin wrote:
near reverse s/w


What does this mean?


It means near reverse switch. :wink:


Which is?

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Whitestriped63 wrote:
drmini in aust wrote:
Whitestriped63 wrote:
blumin wrote:
near reverse s/w


What does this mean?


It means near reverse switch. :wink:


Which is?


somewhere near the gearchange so that when you pick up reverse it "makes" the switch? :?

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9YaTaH wrote:
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drmini in aust wrote:
Whitestriped63 wrote:
blumin wrote:
near reverse s/w


What does this mean?


It means near reverse switch. :wink:


Which is?


somewhere near the gearchange so that when you pick up reverse it "makes" the switch? :?


built into the gear change mechanism in the gearbox housing, with a couple of wires poking out of it, not near the gear stick

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9YaTaH wrote:
Whitestriped63 wrote:
drmini in aust wrote:
Whitestriped63 wrote:
blumin wrote:
near reverse s/w


What does this mean?


It means near reverse switch. :wink:


Which is?


somewhere near the gearchange so that when you pick up reverse it "makes" the switch? :?


built into the gear change mechanism in the gearbox housing, with a couple of wires poking out of it, not near the gear stick


Which can make white globes glow to warn people behind of a reversing vehicle.


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