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look sweet as :D also another note, i made my own weber box, ( a lot shallower than the marketed boxes ) ill get pix of the firewall and the box, the box hasnt been fitted yet though as the car that the dellorto is currently installed is not going to be registered and it sounds sweet without it :D . also pix of the firewall could take a few days as the LS isnt at my house.

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Oh yeah!!! the sound is what I was in it for. As Mini Mad, JAM, the Doc and I was saying on Saturday, even if my car doesn't go as hard, at least it sounds good, and that's all that matters!!! :wink:

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i thought you just finished saying it now goes harder?

what sound would that be? can you hear the dellorto?


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what sound would that be? can you hear the dellorto?


Not over the sound of air being sucked into the engine :D :shock:


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Yeah Webers and Dell'ortos sound awesome. I was driving my car around for a few weeks with a minimum of dashboard in it and it sounded great! Especially good coupled with my loud exhuast :wink:

My Mini didn't go particularly harder after putting the Dell'orto on, but it sounds much better, half the reason why I bought it!


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i thought you just finished saying it now goes harder?

what sound would that be? can you hear the dellorto?


His car definately had an improvement over the 1.25" SU he had on there before, I think what he meant was that even if it doesn't go as hard as some other cars out there it still sounds awesome :)

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thats a bloody big expense to go to if it makes no performance improvement :!: :!:

:arrow: alright boys and girls.. i'm gunna do some experiments... stay tuned

8) i have a g-tech performance meter.. bloody accurate lil gizmo that plus into the ciggy lighter and then you thrash your car for a lil while and it will tell you your 0-100 time, 1/4 mile time.. peak hp (i dont trust that bit)

but the 0-100 and 1/4 mile are pretty bloody accurate, and perfetly consistent..the latter being more important (when i tested it in my cortina the time stopped just as the speedo clicked past 100).. is cool

so this is what i propose.. :idea: as i do lil mods to my car here and there i will post what improvement it makes in real figures... i wanna know how much extra grunt will a 45DHLA make to my car but noone can seem to give me a better answer than "it sounds cool"...

the two i have are setup for a 2L escort with peak power at 6G... i figure one of em cant be a bad setup for a 1098... i knows theres more to calculating crap like that than cc's but its a start... :wink:

:idea: can i get some more show of hands of power improvements from going from a crappy (by design, not maintenance status) SU to a beefy 40 or 45 weber or dellorto

if i'm gunna slog out a couple of hundred bucks on bits it better do better than 'sound cool' :?:


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As I said before- a 40 with 33 or 34mm chokes is plenty for any roadie 998 or 1098.
(Alfa Dellorto 40DHLAs came stock with 32 or 33 chokes. Try them first.)

For an out and out 998 or 1098 race car- I'd get a 45 and put 36mm chokes in it. 8)
Of course 1098s don't get raced much- people think they'll blow up if you rev the nuts off them! (yeah they will too, kiddies, so keep it to under 7,000 max, OK?) :lol:

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miniVan wrote:
thats a bloody big expense to go to if it makes no performance improvement :!: :!:

:arrow: alright boys and girls.. i'm gunna do some experiments... stay tuned

8) i have a g-tech performance meter.. bloody accurate lil gizmo that plus into the ciggy lighter and then you thrash your car for a lil while and it will tell you your 0-100 time, 1/4 mile time.. peak hp (i dont trust that bit)

but the 0-100 and 1/4 mile are pretty bloody accurate, and perfetly consistent..the latter being more important (when i tested it in my cortina the time stopped just as the speedo clicked past 100).. is cool

so this is what i propose.. :idea: as i do lil mods to my car here and there i will post what improvement it makes in real figures... i wanna know how much extra grunt will a 45DHLA make to my car but noone can seem to give me a better answer than "it sounds cool"...

the two i have are setup for a 2L escort with peak power at 6G... i figure one of em cant be a bad setup for a 1098... i knows theres more to calculating crap like that than cc's but its a start... :wink:

:idea: can i get some more show of hands of power improvements from going from a crappy (by design, not maintenance status) SU to a beefy 40 or 45 weber or dellorto

if i'm gunna slog out a couple of hundred bucks on bits it better do better than 'sound cool' :?:

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miniVan wrote:
thats a bloody big expense to go to if it makes no performance improvement :!: :!:

:arrow: alright boys and girls.. i'm gunna do some experiments... stay tuned

8) i have a g-tech performance meter.. bloody accurate lil gizmo that plus into the ciggy lighter and then you thrash your car for a lil while and it will tell you your 0-100 time, 1/4 mile time.. peak hp (i dont trust that bit)

but the 0-100 and 1/4 mile are pretty bloody accurate, and perfetly consistent..the latter being more important (when i tested it in my cortina the time stopped just as the speedo clicked past 100).. is cool

so this is what i propose.. :idea: as i do lil mods to my car here and there i will post what improvement it makes in real figures... i wanna know how much extra grunt will a 45DHLA make to my car but noone can seem to give me a better answer than "it sounds cool"...

the two i have are setup for a 2L escort with peak power at 6G... i figure one of em cant be a bad setup for a 1098... i knows theres more to calculating crap like that than cc's but its a start... :wink:

:idea: can i get some more show of hands of power improvements from going from a crappy (by design, not maintenance status) SU to a beefy 40 or 45 weber or dellorto

if i'm gunna slog out a couple of hundred bucks on bits it better do better than 'sound cool' :?:

I'd love to see what the differance from one cam to the other will be.....I know what Morris does (1098 +60 731Cam Hiff44) by the fell and also RR 45 HP. Other than my own feel (sorry and the Wifes (her car)) it will be interesteing with the new cam in...and I'l let you know. At this stage I intend to keep with the HIF and the possible RR may happen again :!:

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miniVan wrote:
8) i have a g-tech performance meter.. bloody accurate lil gizmo that plus into the ciggy lighter and then you thrash your car for a lil while and it will tell you your 0-100 time, 1/4 mile time.. peak hp (i dont trust that bit):



I'm pretty sure you can get a decent power output figure by knowing the exact weight of your car (eg on a weighbridge), and timing 0-60mph or the 1/4 mile or something. One of my Mini tuning books details how to do it. Obviously it's not as good as a dyno reading, but it's a start.

Whacking a Weber/Dell'orto on to your Mini doesn't make instant power gains. A *properly* setup HS4 carb on small bore motors can be perfectly adequate. Often though the hard part is getting it setup.... My Dell'orto is on the worst swan neck manifold devised by man, and hasn't been tuned properly yet, hence why it doesn't go too much harder than my well-setup HS2. But it will, when I get my new manifold and tune it all :)

My favourite part of my Dell'orto is the 'redline on demand' feature. No matter what it will always pull to redline. I used to run out of carb a lot on the HS2, had to try pretty hard to get it to 6 grand!

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Anto is absolutely right, whacking a dellorto in won't give you hugely significant gains in power. The only reason i put one in was because I scored it for so cheap, cheaper than twin 1 1/4 SUs, alittle dearer than HS4, but man I got it for the sound!! :oops: :lol:

But yeah, the carb really puts out and will redline the engine easily. The other reason why I got it was because I was running a pissy single 1 1/4 SU before and it had trouble with uphill on 4th... Now, no problems in that department :wink:

I got the Pulsar dissy today so after whacking that it, I hope the Doc can wave his magic wand and tune this baby up without it missing and chugging :wink:

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ok, well i'm a little green when it comes to mini parts and go fast bits.. whats a hs4?

i have a stock 1 1/4" SU, so i'm guessing the dellorto has to be better

and if she hits redline well that to me would say she gets better top end power with the dellorto... which is better power.. top end or not

i'm going ahead with the conversion anyway and i'll let you know how it goes


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Well Kev the rose joints on the Lynx linkage are polyurethane - I had the director of Lynx was demonstrating their strenght to me by jumping on one of the internal bearings.

The quality of the whole kit is crap - my cousin has toys that are better engineered and are sturdier than that kit.

Chong arent you worried about that rubber fuel line touching the extractors?


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Fuel lines touching extractors?? they're not as far as I know... the fuel line is on top of the dellorto and comes from far left of the engine bay, in the photo it's the one connecting to the in line fuel filter on the top of the dellorto. The other rubber lines are not for fuel, it's my under bonnet fresh air heater line that runs coolant :lol:

nehow I will have to double check it now that you mentioned it :shock:

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