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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:18 am 
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Ready to paint my 66 Deluxe in the original Toga White. I have found plenty of references for the colour code but I want to paint it in 2 pack and my painter cannot find the colour formula make up of the various pigments or whatever they are. Does anyone out there know where I can find this information please.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:36 am 
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I had a tin of 2k in that colour i wouldn't be able to get to it after work


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:00 am 
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That would be a great benefit if it had the formula on the tin. Thanks Goldie. Do you have a picture of your car as well.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:55 pm 
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Can't find it anywhere sorry


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:01 pm 
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Minicooper4me wrote:
Ready to paint my 66 Deluxe in the original Toga White. I have found plenty of references for the colour code but I want to paint it in 2 pack and my painter cannot find the colour formula make up of the various pigments or whatever they are. Does anyone out there know where I can find this information please.

Have you talked to a ppg distributor, they seem to have many of the old bmc paint codes.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:43 pm 
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Thanks for trying anyway Goldie.

PPG can't help either.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:14 pm 
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I did get mine years ago in 2K from Ovesco in Sandgate N.S.W. Hi chem do automotive 2pak they done Snow white for my 68 deluxe and Stella blue on a mates mini k unless you prefer a particular brand?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:18 pm 
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my mate got some by getting a sample pot made up in the original formula and then matched by eye

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:28 pm 
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Have you read this thread? - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=91675

Lindsay Palmer seems to be saying a couple of things of interest:

1. The recipes from the "good old days" are of no use as the components (e.g. tinters) have changed.

2. Unless someone has recently been through this process for your colour (Toga White) you will need to provide a sample so the colour can be mixed by eye. Do you have a boot lid or number plate flap or similar to use as a sample?

Of course if the colour has been mixed recently and a recipe is available it will be for whatever version of Toga White was presented for colour matching at the time. It may not be the original factory Toga White, or it may be a very faded 45 year old component that was used for matching.

I think that's the conclusion from the discussion but very happy to be corrected. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:39 pm 
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Thanks Winnabbey, what you said is correct.

Where in Victoria are you minicooper4me ?

I'll have a look what I have at work next chance I get.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:36 am 
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I painted the roof of my Cooper S Toga White. Glasurit had the code and mixed it for me.

I have used PPG for my later restorations and they had codes for all I needed except Cherry Red. Again Glasurit were able to help.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:56 am 
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. I have dug up a sample panel out of the shed for the painter in Traralgon. Will take it there today for matching.

Gee this is a great forum, lots want to help out. I'm at the pointy end of the restoration. I suppose thats whats it all about, we all get in to help each other. Much appreciated.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:12 am 
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The DULUX colour code for Toga White is 08452.
Reference: ICI Autocolour Dulux colour index September 1992.

The tinters and settings using the DULUX measuring system are:

Tinter Setting Tinter Name
19206 458 Hi-Opacity White
31507 484 Deep Black
05440 500 Yellow Ochre

This is a guide only. Modern colour tinters may be entirely different to these older tinters.
The colour is basically 1/3 white, 1/3 black and 1/3 yellow ochre but a small change in the tinter setting can make a large difference to the final colour. All tinters are not created equal.

Edit: added tinter and setting info
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Suttons parts, Homebush Bay, Sydney have the colour. mixed it for my roof

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:31 am 
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Freddo wrote:
Suttons parts, Homebush Bay, Sydney have the colour. mixed it for my roof

Freddo - can you remember how they did it? Did you submit a sample to be matched or did they have it in their system? If the latter, it would be interesting to know how they created it, or where they obtained it. I ask this because of my earlier comment on how close the colour mixes being used today are when compared to the original colours.

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