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 Post subject: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:05 am 
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Hi All,

I am in the process of restoring my LS and I need some advise,

1..Does anyone know the part number of the rear brake cylinders and shoes,(there seems to be different bore sizes available in the cylinders and the car does have discs on front)

2..The P/N for the brake master cylinder.

3..The P/N for the coolant temp sensor.

Any advise would be appreciated.

Thanks Felix

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 Post subject: Re: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:00 am 
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1..Does anyone know the part number of the rear brake cylinders and shoes,(there seems to be different bore sizes available in the cylinders and the car does have discs on front)
GWC1101MS wheel cylinders
GBS101MS shoes
2..The P/N for the brake master cylinder.
GMC227- DUAL CIRCUIT BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER FOR 1977 ON
3..The P/N for the coolant temp sensor.
GTR104

I THINK these are the bits. I'm led to believe all aussie rear W/C are 5/8 when disc are up front.

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 Post subject: Re: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:26 am 
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Thanks scoop ,

I think I need to do some shopping around.

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 Post subject: Re: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:51 am 
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Go Karcraft for a start I reckon. Mini Kingdom online also.

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 Post subject: Re: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:48 am 
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"Just pulled the old wheel cylinders apart and measured the bore 3/4" ?

Looks like someone may have put wrong ones in.

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 Post subject: Re: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:28 am 
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Brains trust might have to weigh in here then.

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 Post subject: Re: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:04 pm 
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your 5/8 dia will be correct with disc brakes.

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 Post subject: Re: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:51 am 
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Thanks guys,
I think I'll get the 5/8 brake cylinders.

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 Post subject: Re: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:53 am 
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Location: Under the bonnet son!
Its only under the hardest braking that the difference in sizes becomes apparent. The rear lifts more with the better braking of the discs and will lock up.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:03 am 
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Having almost lost a disc braked Mini in the wet @ 110kmh on the F3 freeway, because the PO had kept 3/4" RW cylinders on, I would say fit 5/8" ones.
3/4 cyls + front discs = bloody dangerous in an emergency.

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 Post subject: Re: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:15 am 
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Thanks again for info,

I will defenitely fit the 5/8 cylinders.
Off to Karkraft tomorrow but first I need to get the master cylinder
out and take it with me as it appears to be a tandem type.
I might just rekit it if it looks OK

Regards Felix

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 Post subject: Re: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:10 pm 
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Before I took the master cylinder out this morning I noticed the brake pedal was a lot higher than the clutch pedal.Brake pedal is 135mm from floor to pedal with carpet and rubber pad removed and the clutch is 110mm.

On my previous minis these pedals were the same height.

Does anyone know which height is correct or could it be that the brake master cylinder fitted is wrong?

Also should I be changing or rekiting my clutch M/clinder whilst the brake M/cylinder is out (The clutch is working fine)

Thanks Felix

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 Post subject: Re: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:52 pm 
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I change all my brake and clutch parts from master cylinders down with new parts just for peace of mind

Its up to you if you change it or not


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 Post subject: Re: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:55 pm 
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1970cooper wrote:
Before I took the master cylinder out this morning I noticed the brake pedal was a lot higher than the clutch pedal.Brake pedal is 135mm from floor to pedal with carpet and rubber pad removed and the clutch is 110mm.

On my previous minis these pedals were the same height.

Does anyone know which height is correct or could it be that the brake master cylinder fitted is wrong?

Also should I be changing or rekiting my clutch M/clinder whilst the brake M/cylinder is out (The clutch is working fine)

Thanks Felix
Cooper S with disc brakes had the higher pedal std, so did the GT, I'd say the LS is probably the same story.

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 Post subject: Re: 1978 mini ls
PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:00 pm 
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Thanks Kevin,

You are a wealth of information.

Regards Felix

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