Hey,

I just had a quick look on here but are there any 4AGE powered minis getting around?

I know that i may be better of going 4EFTE but i like the idea of NA engines.

Would it be 'hard' to put the age into a clubman?

Im wanting to slowly work on an engine project for the mini over the next 2 years or so and am just having a look at options.


Thanks Blake

The subframe will be just as hard as in a roundy but as far as I can see it isn't an extremely hard job. I think if you can weld and grind you can do a conversion.

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yeh well me metalwork skills arent to bad.

Im a little concerned about how much of the engine bay would need cutting away as i dont want to chop the car up to much.


Thanks Blake

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I think from memory that are too wide.

Not ever having measured one myself, i think they are over 900mm wide, while the 4EFTE sits in at around 840mm.

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Thanks for the replys.

Ive heard they are wide but ive seen a few on the 16v mini club forums that look like they havent had the track altered.

im going to go find me a 4age a take a measuring tape with me.

ive found some dimensions for the 4age but dont know how reliable they are but:

Wide = 860mm
High = 590mm

Im still going out to find one to double check this size but if it is only 860mm wide it should be alright

Why not use a 5efe? Its exactly the same size block as a 4efte/4efe, even down to mountings and gearbox. The main difference being a different sized flywheel.

Theyll bolt into the same subframes and use all of the same ancillaries.

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um i thought about the 5efe but yeh i thought the 4age would be a better engine choice for N/A

http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic ... e&start=15

http://www.16vminiclub.com/forums/showt ... t=4age+20v

Here are a couple of pics of my 4age Mini I built in the UK and imported to Oz.

It obviously has wider track but that was only to get it into a standard length round nose.

From experience I thknk that it is possible in a clubman without changing the track.

Good Luck

Rich

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Hey Rich,

Yeh i have seen your car and it looks awesome but this is what is making me wondering if i would need to alter the track. Do you have a build thread anywhere?

Do you have some sizes of the engine? im assuming the 20v is the same size as the 16v (which is what i am looking at doing)

Thanks Blake

Sorry, No build thread! But if you look on the 16v Mini club site then there are at least 2 that you can look at. One from Dazzler and one from Spag. Both are 16v builds.

The width of engine & box is about 890 - 900mm which is about the max you can do.

You can definately do it in a clubman fairly easily without widening the track.

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Is that width with a 6 speed transmission or with a 5 speed? I 'think' the 5 speeds from the 16Vs are a bit shorter?

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Thanks Rich, Yeh ive had a read through all the threads on 16vminiclub.

MMmM i found somewhere that the 4age 16v was only 860 wide which makes it about 20mm longer than the 4efte but i dont know how reliable the info is. I think i will have o find one and measure it.

Im going to have a chat to an engineer over the next few weeks and see what they say about it.


Thanks Blake

It seems from the 16vMini forum that someone in South Africa is producing a subframe to fit this engine into a clubby.

I would really like to fit one of these engines in a Mini someday. They go well in stock form, are bombproof reliable and there's elevnty-billion aftermarket bits for them.

I have a 4AGE in my MR2. Might have to run out with a tape measure....

Cheers,

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