By no suspension i mean that i have no shocks on the car, every thing else is still on there like the hub and brakes. How do i add a pic and i will add some so maby you can see what i mean....

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These links as follows has some pics of the van with the suspension on
and without it, the pics with the bodykit is the pic without the koni's on,
and obviously the others have the koni's on.. See the difference in ride
hieght? And there isnt much difference in height between the 13"s and
the 10"s as the tyres on the 10"s are taller

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dude, what do you have the multi-grips holding??? and that is a big gap!!!!

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Yes that big gap is the dilemma that i am faced with.. And the vice grips are only holding on the kit before it was screwed on. And that height of the car is without shocks on, so it must be sitting on the bump stops, is it hard to remove them? And is it legal?

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The Shocks don`t hold the car up ,,,& have absolutely no bareing on the "ride height" of the car,,,you`d best fit a set of """HI-LOS""",,,adjustable alloy cones,,,these will enable you to set the ride height where you want it to sit.

& yeah,,,as Greg said,,,a major portion of what i was saying about 13" wheels compared to 10" wheels is to do with the un-sprung weight,,,very hard to find a 13" wheel/tyre combo as light as you can get, to come anywhere near the weight of a very light weight 10" wheel/tyre combo & yeah, split race 13" wheels & canvas tyres are very light,,,but simply not as light as split 10" race wheels with canvas bags simple as that...

However,,,another very important issue plays with you here too,,, a change in suspension geometry comes into play once 13" wheels are fitted & you then try to lower the car back down to a reasonable height, all your control arm angles go out the window

i overcame all that on the "New Blew" car with the re-positioning of all the front control arms & severly shortened (made em myself) Hi-Los assys & a big change in the subframe tower top & lower rear frame tongue heights & also re-positioning of the bump stop brakets & also a raised re-bound rubber pillar,,,big job to do properly & works awsomely!!!!!!!!!! But, i won`t bother doing it again...just too much work with very little gain from a good 10" wheel set up.

also you have a very large wind resistance issue with super wide wheels & flares,,,you all may not think that it`s much of a problem, but i don`t believe many of you have ever sat at over 130mph in a mini for any amount of time...normally a mini hits a wall of wind at about 80mph & the average 1275 or bigger donk will pull through that no problem to about 100mph,,,but to try to get to 130mph & actually hold it there for any length of time takes a very good donk ,a well set up suspension & a driver with big go-nads.

i`m now goping back to 10" because of all those issues,,,maybe i`m just getting lazy in my old age

be on the look out for a citric acid green fastback mini monaco , on 10" wheels with 180hp twin cam turbo power in the near future my new road mini.

yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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No offence intended here but--> anyone writing a book about minis 30 years ago may not have experienced such worn or stuffed-with components as we are finding these days.

You should put your heart & soul into everything you do.

The UK Coopers with 13" Sportspak wheels were 5 or 10 KMH slower than those with stock wheels.. just due to wind resistance..

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Lovin your work Matt.
Look forward to seeing it. G.

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1964 Austin Cooper S ex-Group C race car
1967 Morris Cooper S ex-Group B
1962 Mini Speed sports sedan
1968-71 ex-Peter Manton Shell car

Don't forget thier is no engine in the last pic witht he tens

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When i had the suspension on there, me and a mate jumped in the front on the sub frames and jumped up and down a couple of time and still didnt seem to drop the car that much and the total weight of me and my mate is about 215kg or so....
What am i expecting to pay for a set of hi - los? do they come as a set of four? for the front and back or do they come in a set of two?
Cheers
Daniel

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