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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:33 pm 
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biggest engine u can fit legally is a 1.8 litre n/a and the biggest turbo donk i think by memory is a 1.3 litre turbo eg starlet gt,i only found this out by asking helpfull guy at trick fits at chipping norton,so SR20 would be out of the question unless u want ur butt rapped by the cops an rta..so throw a CA18 in a mini or even a astra 1.8 coz anythink bigger goes way over the power to weight guidelines or somethink like that anyways i got told...


well thats what i told this kid, :roll: but its typical of that type of race..(not to sound racist) but this kid would not take a it cant be done as an answer.. when it came to weight he said he was sticking a 12 grand system in it so it should be heavy enough to pass engineer...

soo as i heard that from him i told him to leave.. and asked he to do me one favor and that was if he planed on going ahead with the conversion to atleast stay away from a roundy...

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drmini in aust wrote:
Where do they get the 638kg for a Mini, most Minis weigh more than that- a Cooper S, any Clubby or a 1275LS is heaps more.


When I got my 850 registered a couple of months back, they insisted that it weighed 625 kg.


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when it came to weight he said he was sticking a 12 grand system in it so it should be heavy enough to pass engineer...

haha! :lol:

OT: what does a rover 1.3i weigh? they're specced more for comfort aren't they?


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when it came to weight he said he was sticking a 12 grand system in it so it should be heavy enough to pass engineer...

haha! :lol:


i did that and my eyes were like this :shock:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:27 pm 
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This is the project that im doing.

The enginerring cost to do it in SA are $4500.

The SSS engine will not fit unless u do firewall modifications!!! Because of the inlet manifold. Without the turbo it should be okay

The best way to go is to use the GTIR engine as they quad throttle body is on the right angle to fit between the bonnet and where the brake master cylinders sits.

The gearbox would have to be changed and the gearbox i am looking at using is the a LSD 70 series. Im not sure what the part number. But is far more reliable

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sounds like a good idea.. although abit of a tight fit?

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Perhaps this thread should be in mini conversions since it is hardly an A series :D

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hmm come to think of it i just realised this is in the wrong section.. i meant to put it in conversions

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The weight used by DOTARS in the calculation is the original weight of the Std vehicle, so filling it with Amps, Lead, other Ballast won't help at all.

When I looked this up a while ago, the weight I found listed for a Clubman was 73*kg cant remember the last number, so I didi the calculations on 730 just to be sure. When I was looking at putting my Brothers spare BP-T in, it was around 15cc too big. Close. but too big :(

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wow, i put up a VERY similar thread here last year, and got my arse handed to me by tricky and josh, however, it can be done, but you need to get the sr-20de non turbo, the one i know of was mid-mounted.

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my question would by why do you need a motor that big?

It's a mini...surely some sort of balance should be sought?

I dunno i can get 200HP ATW out of a stock internally 1.3L and a 2L is going to be a lot bigger and heavier over the front end and would impact handling.

The GTiR motor was big and heavy in the pulsar let alone a mini.

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minidrifter wrote:
wow, i put up a VERY similar thread here last year, and got my arse handed to me by tricky and josh, however, it can be done, but you need to get the sr-20de non turbo, the one i know of was mid-mounted.


Not sure Tricky would have had a go at you, he's the most encouraging person I know. That AND we (he and I) bought a complete GTiR set up to go into a clubman and it would have fit.

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Craig will be alright in SA as there is currently no maximum engine size or max horsepower a car can have. It just has to be "safe". It has to conform to certain braking regulations but that is based on the weight of the car, wheels and tyres, among other things. It has nothing to do with horsepower.

The car, here in SA at least will need to pass a lane change test, but there is a little more to it. It will need to pass and exhibit no dangerous handling attributes. But this should all be good in a properly built and designed car.

As Stuart Croser said at a recent Hotrbricks meeting "there's no limit to what you can go, but only how much it will cost". I do agree with this, while there are some really strict rules that stop certain modifications right away the engine conversion rulings here in SA are very open ended. Unless they change to an Australia wide system but hopefully for us they don't anytime soon.

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Mini Mad wrote:
my question would by why do you need a motor that big?

It's a mini...surely some sort of balance should be sought?

I dunno i can get 200HP ATW out of a stock internally 1.3L and a 2L is going to be a lot bigger and heavier over the front end and would impact handling.

The GTiR motor was big and heavy in the pulsar let alone a mini.


exactly my thoughts at the time.. i mentioned your car to him josh and the kid was like

:shock:

but still was convinced 2ltr was the way to go :roll:

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I weighbridged my van a few weeks ago for engineering cert for 4efte conversion. I got 720 - 740kgs (kept flicking between the two, so obviously rounded to the nearest 20kgs)

The Engineer had to submit the tyre ratings to the department for planning and infrastructure because the original tare weight was 650 kg, so in their eyes a 100kg increase! Shouldn't be more than 30kg increase comparing what came out with what went in, but oh well. :roll:

If people want a street / drag car then buy a escort or rwd corrolla and put an sr20det in that. You will be able to use more of the power. and it will be much quicker and much much cheaper!

If you want a balanced, quick, corner loving, COOL car then play with a modified mini. Just dont put a big heavy lump in the front, because it will just wheel spin and upset the handling.

There are much easier and cheaper ways to go fast than using a mini! :?

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