Hi


I'm getting a workshop to do a Starlet Conversion.
But I really need to do a dry suspension conversion before I can send it away.

Are there anyone have a remove/fitting guide on this
or anyone would like to guide me thru please.

I'm looking to order this kit from Minimania, would you please to let me know what other parts I need on top of this kit?

http://www.minimania.com/web/Item/MMKT0905/InvDetail.cfm

Can it be done with my original trailing arms and front arms?

Which is a better adjustable shocker to go with?

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Thank you


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US $1200 + freight, and maybe import duty

on face value, it seems steep, but individually, all those parts would add up quickly. However, it's easy to get hold of a pair of dry subframes complete with radius arms etc. for a lot less money, but that won't come with flash adjustable shocks, hilo's & coil springs

the general concensus on those springs instead of rubber cones is that they aren't worth the money, though the cost (of just the springs) is similar to a set of new rubber cones - do some searching on here and the UK mini forums and see if you can find someone with 1st hand experience, most of the opinions people share are hearsay

I have converted hydro subframes to dry in the past, actually using the hydro subframes instead of replacing them with dry subframes. I needed to modify the rubber cones to fit into the subframe, as the hydro bags are retained with keeper lugs, and the rubber cones wouldn't fit past them. I could have ground the lugs out of the subframe, but I wanted the option of putting the hydro back in. You might find the same thing, so you'll need to remove some metal from the inside of the subframe towers for those springs to fit. The dry subframes differ here in that they have a domed plate inside the towers (and at the rear) that keep the rubber cones in position, and act as a hard stop under extreme droop.

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Anymore members would like to suggest/advising me?

Are there anyone know much about this Coil spring and does it well performing?

What would it cost roughly for a set of dry subframe and will fit right to my shell due to the car age being so old?

Or anyone here might have a spare set please let me know, I'm from Melbourne.


Thank you

For that sort of money I would consider a coil over conversion.
I dont think you would need new subframes and you would get much better ride compliance due to the longer springs. Plus more adjustability, especially in regards to spring rate and height. Talk to Archangel007, he just put a set on his conversion.

The cheap way would be to chase up a pair of built subframes that have everything you need. (mind you they probably wont have adjustable shocks, hi los and all the other flash bits)

PS: Why do you want to convert to dry suspension?

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Hi James
Appreciated for your advised.

The reason I would like to change it is because I want to have a better suspension and handling to cope with starlet engine. I will use the mini on the track.


Well I also like the DAMPER AND COIL OVER KIT, in terms of adapting with a new suspension setting and of cause better looking too.

But would it perform better handling than the normal hi/lo with coil spring or rubber cones?

Do I still need to get another set of Dry subframe to go with this DAMPER AND COIL OVER KIT.
Or I can just remove the hyro bags and pipes, than drill the top arm and replace the rear stub axle?


Cheers,

Actually are there any difference comparing the blue colour kit and this yellow kit, both are made by Spax


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Price:
Standard $1450 USD
Lowered $1695 USD

But the blue colour from Minisport.com.au
are much cheaper $1395 AUD

dont use thoese springs i have tryed them and they colapsed they company didnt want to hear from me after that

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What part of the spring colapsed? The adapter or the spring?

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Wow that's very bad design for selling this price.

Thanks for letting me know that.


Anyone here has done some research or experience on the Coil over shocker?

I spoke to Minisports this morning about this kit, they couldn't tell me what is the different between the blue and yellow kit.

As what they has been told me, I can keep my current wet subframe by removing the hyro system and changing the stub axle.
They wouldn't recommend me fit the lowered kit due to the reason I got my Zeemax bodykit and 13"x7" wheels on it,
because it require to trim the wheel arch in order to lowered with 13x7.

Is this sound right?

Hi OJ,

I have the GAZ coilovers in my Clubman. Is also hs a Zeemax kit. Dont run the lowered xoilover kit or the guards will rub on the wheels and you wont have enough suspension travel before they bottom out. Standard ride height is OK.

The difference b/w the blue and yellow shocks is that the yellow have a better quality shock which has more adjustments and bigger piston area - this is the one I would go for in the Spax range.

I bought the GAZ xoilovers as the bodies are zinc-cadmium plated instead of painted, so nicks and scratches from road gravel wont chip paint and cause them to rust on the outside. Other than this, they are nearly identical.

I dont know much about the replacement coil setup s I have never used them. I have heard both good and bad reports. Personally, I would choose coilovers as the spring length is longer allowing the compression stroke to be customised to your liking - either firm or soft, and the will also allow longer travels without binding.

Another important thing to note about the coilovers is that they run a standard 2" coil - to which there are many options availble to you from other manufacturers like Tein, Eibach and Ohlin, which allows you to change spring rate and even use progressive rate or dual rate springs.

Hope this helps.
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Hi Archangel007


Do you think Coilovers setup would have any side effect or disadvantage?

Originally the mini suspension are fitted inside the subframe tower.
As we all can see the subframe are how strong and duriable it is, able to tolerate
all kind of road/track use until todays.

In fact the coilover setup, it just has the bracket bolt onto the panels. Would it effecting
the car body in long run, such as body twist or tearing the bolting points due to putting
too much strest on it by hardcore driving behaviour. For sure that panels thickness and
strength aren't stronger then subframe.

Honestly, myself really like coilover setup for my mini, but I just want to know more
informations from some people who are using it and able to tell me will it collapse easily.


Hey Archangel, can you tell me which website I can order it, where did you purchased
yours and how much? Would be great if those website carry other brands as you
mentioned. I only saw the blue spax from minisport.


Appreciated for your time and info.