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cush
 Post subject: Engine Build Kit
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:53 am 
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I'd like to compile an itemised list of ALL the parts you need to build an A series engine (and GB) from scratch.

Detail that goes into the number of bolts used to attach whatever but not including things like water pump and alternator (as they'd generally be assembled)

I would like to see it in this format

(the items in italics i am unsure of)



Head

1x Head
4x Inlet Valves
4x Exhaust Valves
8x Pushrods
8x Cam Followers
1x Head gasket
What bits make up the rocker shaft?
Valve guides or some such


Block

1x Block
2x Tappet Covers (if needed)
4x Pistons
4x Gudgeon Pins
(8x Gudgeon Pin Circlips)
4x Conrods
4x Conrod Caps
8x Big End Bolts (washers/locktabs?)
8x Big End Bearings
Welsch PLugs how many?
Oil Gallery Plugs how many?

Clutch
1x Flywheel
1x Pressure plate
1x Driven Plate
1x Throwout bearing
1x Slave cylinder (2 bolts what size?)

Gearbox
Gearboxes scare me, Tell me what parts there are

ok... so there's loads i've missed, do fill me in...

let me know the category and then the part name

i'll update it into a new post when i get extra information

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 Post subject: Re: Engine Build Kit
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:43 am 
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cush wrote:
I'd like to compile an itemised list of ALL the parts you need to build an A series engine (and GB) from scratch.

Detail that goes into the number of bolts used to attach whatever but not including things like water pump and alternator (as they'd generally be assembled)

I would like to see it in this format

(the items in italics i am unsure of)



Head

1x Head
4x Inlet Valves
4x Exhaust Valves
8x Pushrods
8x Cam Followers
1x Head gasket
What bits make up the rocker shaft?
Valve guides or some such


Block

1x Block
2x Tappet Covers (if needed)
4x Pistons
4x Gudgeon Pins
(8x Gudgeon Pin Circlips)
4x Conrods
4x Conrod Caps
8x Big End Bolts (washers/locktabs?)
8x Big End Bearings
Welsch PLugs how many?
Oil Gallery Plugs how many?

Clutch
1x Flywheel
1x Pressure plate
1x Driven Plate
1x Throwout bearing
1x Slave cylinder (2 bolts what size?)

Gearbox
Gearboxes scare me, Tell me what parts there are

ok... so there's loads i've missed, do fill me in...

let me know the category and then the part name

i'll update it into a new post when i get extra information


It will vary from model to model of course, but I find the exploded diagrams in the "Mini Spares/Mini Kingdom" catalogue invaluable for things like this. Someone asked about the catalogue recently and mini king in narellan are still selling them apparantly.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:48 am 
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cam bearings on most (except 850's I think ??),
Valve guides , valve guide seals
Oil pump , water pump , hoses (radiator top and bottom , bypass , heater)
Fan belt , fan
Distributer rebuild bits or replacement
carb rebuild etc
starter/aternator/generatoretc

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 Post subject: Re: Engine Build Kit
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:05 am 
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cush wrote:


Head

1x Head
4x Inlet Valves
4x Exhaust Valves
8x Pushrods
8x Cam Followers
1x Head gasket
What bits make up the rocker shaft?
Valve guides or some such

Rocker Shaft (Heavy Duty kind is best)
Rockers
Rocker Posts to suit
Rocker spacers or springs to suit
Valve Springs Set
Manifold gasket
Manifold studs x 6
Manifold brass nuts x 6

Head Studs x 9 (4 tall, 5 short)
Head nuts (flanged type with or without hardenned washers)
Temp sender
Rocker Cover
Rocker cover bolts and grommets
Rocker cap
Thermostat
Thermostat housing
Thermostat housing gasket (2 if you have a steady bar)
Bypass hose

Block

1x Block
2x Tappet Covers (if needed)
4x Pistons
4x Gudgeon Pins
(8x Gudgeon Pin Circlips)
4x Conrods
4x Conrod Caps
8x Big End Bolts (washers/locktabs?) Don't use loctabs, just grease and torque
8x Big End Bearings
Welsch PLugs how many?
Oil Gallery Plugs how many? 2

Crank
Crank Caps 3 in set
Crank bearings set
Crank cap bolts x 6
Crank thrust bearings x 3
Piston rings set
Cam
Half moon oil seal
Timing kit
Timing Chain or belt
Timing oil seals (2, 1 big one small)
Timing cover gasket
Offset Cam key (depending on what is required)
Crank key
Timing gear shims (if required)
Timing cover seal
Harmonic Balancer
Harmonic balancer bolt (loctite, throw away the loctab)
Water pump pulley

Clutch
1x Flywheel
1x Pressure plate Diaphram
1x Driven Plate What's this?? you mean the clutch plate itself?
1 x Backplate
1x Throwout bearing
1x Slave cylinder (2 bolts what size?)

Primary gear
Idler gear
Idler needle bearing
Idler washers
Clutch cover gasket
Clutch bolts


Gearbox
Gearboxes scare me, Tell me what parts there are

One completely rebuilt gearbox :lol:

To get you started:
Bearings
Gears
Diff gears, thrust washers, pin
Diff side cover x 2
Diff bearings
Layshaft
Mainshaft
Oil pickup
Gaskets
Pot joints (pot joint circlip) or Unis or Hardies (and associated parts)





sports850 wrote:
cam bearings on most (except 850's I think ??),
Valve guides , valve guide seals
Oil pump , water pump , hoses (radiator top and bottom , bypass , heater)
Fan belt , fan
Distributer rebuild bits or replacement
carb rebuild etc
starter/aternator/generatoretc


Other Bits
Engine mounts
Exhaust mounts
Radiator
Radiator mount rubbers
Coil, leads
Diff oil seals
Clutch hose
Engine stready
Engine steady rubbers

my head hurts...

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cush
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:46 pm 
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Excellent!

and 1310/70, any chance of a scan of that?

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And some people wonder why engine rebuilds cost so much :roll:

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 8:24 am 
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cush wrote:
Excellent!

and 1310/70, any chance of a scan of that?

I own a clubman so that's MR 1310/71 to you :D

It's an entire book thicker than a workshop manual, but I'll try to scan a page just so you see what I mean. Being a fairly thick glued spine, I doubt it will scan well without that parallex type curve you sometimes get.

You should get someone to get you one in Sydney, take it to Hay, and give it to willy to take back to SA for you (he has a box trailer you know!).
KB

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i just might do that...

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:16 am 
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Don't know if this will work, but here are two pages scanned from the catalogue to give you an idea of what it is like:

http://www.users.tpg.com.au/kb7000/Minispares1.jpg
http://www.users.tpg.com.au/kb7000/Minispares2.jpg

If it doesn;t work, PM me and I'll email them to you.
KB

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:44 pm 
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That's excellent... so how do i get one of these?

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Minispares in Padstow sell those books, they are a parts catalogue, I think around $30? You can call them and ask them to post it?

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very well...

i did consider it when i saw the phone number.. :)

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 3:20 pm 
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I don't know the full history, I think Mini Kingdom originally developed this and when they merged with Mini Spares, they combined both businesses (and the catalogue) into one (or vice versa). Now they have split again, I'm not sure whether Mini Spares in Padstow or the new Mini King in Narellan are now selling these, or both.

I would give either or both a ring and check. I'm sure they would post it based on a credit card payment over the phone, or get a sydneysider to get one and pass it on. See the post on the Mini King open day and post in there perhaps?

I haven't offered because:
a) I don't go to Mini Spares all that often and have never been to Mini King yet
b) I'm not going to Hay to pass it on to one of your states' cronies.
c) don't envisage going to either in the near future
d) I;ve sufficiently exerted myself just getting it out of the garage and scanning two pages for you.
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I bought both the Mini King(dom) and Mini Car Clinic parts books over the years.
I think Mini King are about to reissue theirs. Give em a ring. :wink:

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drmini in aust wrote:
I bought both the Mini King(dom) and Mini Car Clinic parts books over the years.
I think Mini King are about to reissue theirs. Give em a ring. :wink:


hows about a friendly grey-haired local ring 'em for me... :)

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