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BMW K series motorbike twin cam 16valve cyl head with turbo charged injected pump it up Jam, Yeah!!! :-)

Bang for bucks better than any of em.

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I'm actually waiting for someone down here to do some serious tuning with one of theose Dutch (I think???) 7 port heads , 4 in at the front and 3 out at the back , use conventional cams and exhaust but better breathing all the way . 8 port cross flow's need special cams from memory but this could be fitted with GR's finest or whatever took your fancy .

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TheMiniMan wrote:
BMW K series motorbike twin cam 16valve cyl head with turbo charged injected pump it up Jam, Yeah!!! :-)

Bang for bucks better than any of em.

Got any real crank HP figures yet Matt..........?? :wink:

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The newer Arden 8-porters and the Elder have it set up so that a normal cam can be used. Whereas the period ones (old Arden? And Special Tuning?) required a different cam due to the need to 'transpose the valve timing'.

As an aside, Brickworx, about 2 years ago had a period 8port in the office (at the old shop of course). He said he'd sell it to me for 2,500. That would ahve been so cheap! But, I didn't have the money, or an engine. So all my money wnet to getting a motor and gearbox. In retrospect I would have bought that and stored it.

As I recall, it ended up selling on eBay to a UK buyer for around 3500 Australian according to Steve.

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Not from my engine yet Doc, mine is apart still, awaiting the completion of the duplication process of all the bits. But others around the world that have turbo-d are producing excellent numbers & the potential seems way more than first expected, with some (serious) work done on one of these (& of course to be fair to the title/nature of this thread, more money would obviously need to be invested for "BIG" Hp) But even in std form, "With" a well set up turbo numbers are ,so far,,, very "Interesting" shall i say??? :-)

I have a friend up here who is pulling way more than 300hp with his turbo 1160cc Suzuki swift & we`re following his lead in some deptarments. however, i`m Not saying i`ll be cracking those numbers or anything like them as a matter of fact, just that potentially,,, well :-)

I`m only "Hoping" for about 120-130 ((at the wheels)) from my roady version, but i`m defiantely after more than 200 with the race donk. I have the new "You-Beauty" computer now,,, all we need now is to learn how to fly it :-) Bloody computers & wiring & plugs & terminals & then stuffing around all that bloody time (Again) to sort it all on the lap top thing-a-me-jig,,, Dam, it`s enough to drive a man even more insane :-)

Gone are the good ol` days of simply a bloody big donk with carb & dizzy,,,NO!!!!!!!!!! we all have to be up-market & smooth & sofisticated & complicated & keep up with the times & maps, A/R ratios & bloody finiky stoopid technology stuff these days now don`t we??? & if we`re not then we don`t get the pleasure of going faster, smoother, better now do we??? Dam progress,,, allways gets in the way of progress doesn`t it??? :-)

Just like women hey?, ya can`t live with em,,,,,,,, &,,,,,,, Ya can`t live with em

Ok, i`m done 4 2nite, BBQ at my place tomorrow arv :-)

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slinkey inc wrote:
The newer Arden 8-porters and the Elder have it set up so that a normal cam can be used. Whereas the period ones (old Arden? And Special Tuning?) required a different cam due to the need to 'transpose the valve timing'.


I just spoke to Graham Russell, who helped sort the porting on the latest Arden 8 porter- he assures me the Arden still has the original Arden port layout. So you do still need a funny camshaft for it.
re the Elder 8 port- you are correct, it uses standard A series cam lobe assignment. :wink:

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Yep Doc, Grahams right. I just read through my minispares catalogue and the Arden is stil lthe good ol' Arden. But I did (besides the Elder) read of a crossflow head hat didn't require a differnet cam, I reckon it was the 7-port, which to me is best, can use normal LCBs but can run twin webbers. Yum! 8)

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Jury is still out on HP of that 7 port- but many people think the ports are too big, = too low port velocity.

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just out of interest elder is about $4k (+ or - 500), from memory, but thats with the exhaust and inlet, and a bling rocker cover, shipped to NZ. That was about a year ago when i enquired, so may have changed :D

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