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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:32 pm 
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Somebody Tell Me if I'm Wrong Here...
But Chong you car turn aroun 180 Degree's the Fuel Line in and have a shorty hose, one less on that side and you dont have a hose covering your Noice Delly :wink:

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It won't fit that way Gaf, try it on yours... :lol:

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Umm...I just pulled my 48 apart and realised thier is a plastic Filter inside inside...Bugger

But I still ask, I still cant see what differance it make as long as you put the gaskets on each Side

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I've tried that, it doesn't fit. Besides the way it works now, it comes from the fuel line, into the Fuelstar mounted above the box and does a 180 degree turn from the fuelstar to the dellorto. So it doesn't matter that it is this way as the fuelstar needs to the hooked up anyway :wink:

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Are you Meaning http://www.aapsa.com.au/fuelstar.htm

Piss it off and see how it runs

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Mr Dell'orto doesn't sell a connection which enters from the other side like mr weber does?
I knew those webers were better than their cheap imitators. :D
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gafmo wrote:
Are you Meaning http://www.aapsa.com.au/fuelstar.htm

Piss it off and see how it runs


Yes this is what I am running. Why piss it off? I don't have hardenned valve seats anymore...

Yeah KB there is a connection that comes from the other way but like I said, I need it to come from that direction because of the way the fuelstar is mounted otherwise the hose will have to do an S to get to the dellorto from the fuelstar.

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Diconnect it and see how it runs Mate.. you may find it runs better down low and rev more

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Naah no difference. I ran it for about 2 weeks without it before I got it. No difference.

There is no restriction in flow if that's what you mean? it's a PS110 which is rated for 2 liter cars.

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Hi, where did you get those ity bity ram tubes from, they look great. How long are they and how long are the socks overall?

Also I read your post about building the motor, nice work. I have gone through a similar build, converting from road to race car. Good fun, although I wish I had the expertise on hand like you did. Needless to say she is a bit ratly but not too bad for a first attempt.

Just have 2 questions: a) how extensively ported is the head and b) what is the duration of the cam?

Cheers mate, she's a beaut looking car too! :D

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Hey Chris, Thanks for the kind words.

You actually have 4 questions there :wink:

0) Ramtubes where bought from Dellorto.co.uk. I emailed him and asked him what they had and how much. They have 15mm, 25mm and 60mm ramtubes. These are the 15mm ramtubes and total was $77 landed. On that note, they came door to door in 3.5 days!!! The best price I had in AU was $180 + postage...

0.b) The socks are 100mm long socks but to fit the box I had to pull them back to 70mm in length.

1) The head is my secret weapon! :lol: It has been extensively ported and flow benched by Graham. Ports have been matched, valves have been ground at 3 angles, seats recut, new double springs, new guides. Graham says the head is worth 140hp+ if I 1) rev her hard enough 2) put in a silly duration race cam and custom exhaust running silly compression

2) The cam I am using is the infamous RE13. Let me just reconfirm to everyone: you know how everyone goes on and on about the RE13? well they are RIGHT! It is such a good cam, I can't sing it's praises enough, not without a mic and podium anyway. It is so good, you just have to try it...

Ahem... anyway the duration of an RE13 is 276 degrees I think... can't remember exactly.

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Duration of the RE13 is 274*, according to Graham's writeup in TME magazine.

There are other tricks to the RE13's profile however, apart from the duration... that makes it work so well. 8)

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excellent thanks for that. As you say the power is all in the heads. Any idea what your head would have cost retail? I am going to give mine a grind, obviously wont be as good as your stonker, but will give plenty more power especially with 1.5:1 rockers added.

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Hi Chris,

The head itself including the grinding? or send your head away to be ground. That is a big difference. Call Graham and have a chat with him. He's a busy guy so please be patient! :P

Also one thing worth noting; I reckon building an engine all in one big opperation will achieve a better result that building it in parts. Like head, then throw on the block and rods bla bla.

Example: graham knew I wanted to run 1.5 rockers, RE13 cam, this exhaust, this intake, I want it for road and for torque and will sacrifice top end for it, reliable rather than silly HP... all these things make small differences to each part of the modification and makes a big difference as a whole to the engine build. The head was ground for torque and ground specifically to work with the RE13, bla bla bla...

A good example is the head combustion chamber volume vs how much clearance the pistons have to the deck. This is vital to figure out the exact compression ratio you want. If you go ahead and deck the head, it's only done as a guess as to what your piston dish volume and deck clearance is. When you have both there, it makes it easier to go "Oh ok, we only need to take 10 thou off the head to give you 10.5:1 CR".

There is a whole bunch of stuff like this that I encountered... Just makes for a better package overall and probably why an engine builer built engine do go pretty good. (not to say home built ones aren't good!!!)

PS. I run 10.2:1 CR

so yeah :D

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:08 am 
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I absolutely agree, but when you cant afford it, you cant afford it. Rather than wait I decided to do what I could properly and live with the standard stuff until I could afford it.

Hence now I am looking at a ground head, rockers, ram tubes...ie the power side of things that can be done without pulling the motor out.

Back to the heads, I would be supplying a 12g940 bare casting for treatment. Any chance you can give graham a call given that Im in NZ?

Also how much effect is there in shortening the socks and how far can you go before flow is harmed? I am running DHLA 40.

Your thoughts much appreciated

CHeers

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