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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 10:03 pm 
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Hello All

After some help planning on rebuilding my car from ground up and wanted to know what the easiest engine conversion is and what it may cost. Any help would be great

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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:44 am 
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Hello mate, The 4EFTE (Toyota Starlet) is a pretty easy option as far as i can tell from just watching the forum. It seems to be the most popular choice. As far as help goes, everyone on here is really helpful and there are a couple of good sites giving a bit of a guide to what needs to be done. I went the Suzuki G13B route. I suppose its going alright considering its my first conversion, i'm doing it a bit different to everyone else. Have a quick search on here and you'll find that there are others about, eg Honda, 3 cylinders and Charades are a few. Price wise it does depend on what you already have and how cheap you can source things. There was a 4EFTE front cut on here for about $1000 a little while ago. If you wanted to build a power machine you would probably spend close to 5 on the motor.Then you have engineering on top of that. Check out redlinegti.com and the ??ausstarlet?? forum for sale sections. Do you have brakes? Will you build the frame yourself? Will you need new paint, Bearings, Rubber, glass?

All depends on how deep your pockets are...


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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:35 pm 
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5 G's on an engine thats a lot
i may just stick with a mini engine i think
but yes i will need paint ans some glass
in regards to brakes i have 10" honda civic disk

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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:56 pm 
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bodykitmini wrote:
5 G's on an engine thats a lot
i may just stick with a mini engine i think
but yes i will need paint ans some glass
in regards to brakes i have 10" honda civic disk

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If you're serious about making a mini scary fast than you'll spend cose to that. Unless of course you turbo a 998. I hear that is being done well around these parts......


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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 10:22 pm 
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You're not wrong Striped 63. There are two tacts though. There is all out power and there is the reliabilty side of things. My old 1275 had so many troubles blowin heads, hard to start on a cold morning, gearboxes slipping and such - the A series engine isn't known for its reliability. Get a 90's engine for about $1000 thats done reasonably low kms and keep it stock and you'll get a pretty decent daily driver. Plus you get a 5 speed gearbox. What is a Jack Knight 5 Speed going for these days? I think it would be possible to do it on a pretty tight budget if you just wanted the standard motor and had a complete mini. I went for all out power without a mini to start with so my budget is already blown.


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BUDGET whats this word?

Yeah I agree that it can be done cheaply... But whats your deffinition of cheap!

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Baracade wrote:
BUDGET whats this word?

Yeah I agree that it can be done cheaply... But whats your deffinition of cheap!


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Cheap = where it doesn't cost you a divorce!!

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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:53 am 
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What extent of worke would result in engineering requirements? If it was a bog stock Charade engine, still need an engineers cert? How much is that anyway? :oops:


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yeah you will still need a engeneer's certificate...

For any non a-series motor.

Engineer certs cost from 450 to 1200 depending on the amount of work done!

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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:30 pm 
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By the sounds of all that money my budget has gorn down the s**ter
i may just stick to a worked 1275
and in regards to a my wife leaving me I'm 17 and living at home :lol:
so at worst I'll be kicked out of home and have to live in my car :D

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I spent 7k on my last A series....... and that was doing most of the work myself....
A mate just got a ripper 1275 built and cost him $9000 (i do mean ripper though 125BHP)

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clubmn wrote:
I spent 7k on my last A series....... and that was doing most of the work myself....
A mate just got a ripper 1275 built and cost him $9000 (i do mean ripper though 125BHP)


Not hanging crap but a starlet motor/box/fuel injection for $1000 with 133hp factory feels fantastic....


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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:42 pm 
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People build motors 4 differant purposes. My engine that I built was for my A series racing sprite (had to have sprite running gear, which included an A series motor).......

My mates mini engine that he spent 9k, is for much the same purpose, He wanted to run in A series events. And wanted the car 2 be un molested.....

The engine conversation route doesnt attract the likes of everybody, should keep that in mind...

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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:52 pm 
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No need to explain yourself. It is a shitter that the converted minis can't race.


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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:53 am 
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The convertered mini's can race, just not against other mini's in most races. offhand they race in improved production class?

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