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ahh yeah nice, i guess the one i posted is fair overkilll.. would a motor like that be more fuel efficient ?


which motor? the vtec one? more fuel efficient than what?

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..i dont know much bout engine keep this in mind .. im a total newb.. than a stock 1100
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..i dont know much bout engine keep this in mind .. im a total newb.. than a stock 1100


its like comparing a mule to a thoroughbred :P the thoroughbred might eat more but it sure makes up for it on the racetrack :)

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yeah tru.. im not really intersted in speed and power, but more for fuel efficiency... i hope to do a bit of interstate driving with mine :)
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yeah tru.. im not really intersted in speed and power, but more for fuel efficiency... i hope to do a bit of interstate driving with mine :)


reliability would be of more concern for interstate driving...the vtec one would crap on the 1100 for reliability...

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See the SHS in the VTEC pic you posted Insomnia
- that must be no bigger than 32mm ???

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Pretty much any modern motor is likely to be more fuel efficent than the old A series (the a series wasn't advanced when introduced into a mini and it hasn't changed all that much since) :( but it's a hellofa lot of money to do an engine conversion just because it's more fuel efficent, you'd want to be doing some miles to recoup the costs :lol:

Most engine conversions are done for other reasons :P

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See the SHS in the VTEC pic you posted Insomnia
- that must be no bigger than 32mm ???


yeah i know :P but my thoughts were that was a wee bit on the flimsy side too :P its american afterall :P i guess 40x40 would be sufficient...

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fuzzy-hair-man wrote:
Pretty much any modern motor is likely to be more fuel efficent than the old A series (the a series wasn't advanced when introduced into a mini and it hasn't changed all that much since) :( but it's a hellofa lot of money to do an engine conversion just because it's more fuel efficent, you'd want to be doing some miles to recoup the costs :lol:

Most engine conversions are done for other reasons :P


dunno about that...my prelude ate through petrol like nobody's business when i hit vtec at every set of lights...whereas my old 998 wouldnt go through much more than about $15 worth in a month (with the same driving distances) the prelude would chew through about 5 times that...ofcourse it was a 2.2L engine as well :P but that doesnt exactly scale right in my books :P

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inazuma_x wrote:
_666_ wrote:
..i dont know much bout engine keep this in mind .. im a total newb.. than a stock 1100


its like comparing a mule to a thoroughbred :P the thoroughbred might eat more but it sure makes up for it on the racetrack :)


I was thinking it was more like comparing a crocodile with a thouroughbred,

Crocodile dates back to the dinosaurs and has changed all that much since :D

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I was thinking it was more like comparing a crocodile with a thouroughbred,

Crocodile dates back to the dinosaurs and has changed all that much since :D


LOL tru dat :P

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that said: pound for pound the vtec (b16a i believe that one is) could probably be classed as more fuel efficient...you get a helluva lot more bang for yer buck with the b16a over the 1100 (or any a-series for that matter)...that's for sure...i'd consider it a much better package all-round...uses more fuel (not heaps more but it is a bigger engine, 1.6L vs 1.1L) but you get about 5 times the performance and an order of magnitude more in the reliability sector...its worth doing IMO :P

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inazuma_x wrote:
dunno about that...my prelude ate through petrol like nobody's business when i hit vtec at every set of lights...whereas my old 998 wouldnt go through much more than about $15 worth in a month (with the same driving distances) the prelude would chew through about 5 times that...ofcourse it was a 2.2L engine as well :P but that doesnt exactly scale right in my books :P


My 998 clubby gets about the same mileage as my 2lt camry (I tend to drive the mini harder I think) and this was doing quite a bit of stop start stuff upto 100km so accelerating to 100km/hr wasn't the 998's strong point (great around town at 60km/hr though)

Fuel effecentcy is VERY strongly related to the driver behaviour. :wink:

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dunno about that...my prelude ate through petrol like nobody's business when i hit vtec at every set of lights...whereas my old 998 wouldnt go through much more than about $15 worth in a month (with the same driving distances) the prelude would chew through about 5 times that...ofcourse it was a 2.2L engine as well :P but that doesnt exactly scale right in my books :P


My 998 clubby gets about the same mileage as my 2lt camry (I tend to drive the mini harder I think) and this was doing quite a bit of stop start stuff upto 100km so accerating to 100km/hr wasn't the 998's strong point (great around town at 60km/hr though)


i tend to thrash every car i own :P vtec really does cost you at the pump...you could almost watch the digital fuel guage go down as you drove it in vtec...was really well setup though...man i miss that car :(

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I think we need to consider efficiency v's economy.

Honda's are highly efficient, as are top fuel dragsters. However, not very economic (top fuel dragsters).

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