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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:51 am 
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YAY :!:

My new engineer had some free time & came down yesterday.
Clarified a few things for me.

Not forced to have an airbox around the pod filter.
I can have a dash mounted gearchange so long as it is ergonomically positioned.
If I want to change to an unboosted brake system he will need to carry out a brake pedal pressure test (something that would be difficult to pass & would add to his bill - so I've scrapped that idea).

Due to the nature & extent of my modifications it is now classified as a CBU Moke Utility, I need to comply will modern ADRs including: side impact protection, indicator repeaters on the front guards, ULP stickers next to the fuel tank & in the engine bay, & a ULP restrictor on the tank filler.

That restrictor is a PITA considering they no longer sell the leaded stuff, but thems the rules.

Full steam ahead :D

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don't they have to test the side impact protection?..ie..smash your moke :mrgreen:

and anyway..side impact protection on a moke?!..the side box section is at about calf level when sitting down haha

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Not if you use an already approved method of SIP

He suggested taking the SIP bars out of something like a Diahatsu and bolting them inside the side pods. Easy :)

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minstar wrote:
is it fair to say that if you don't change the ECU the emissions are based on the year of the car. The reason I ask is because my engineer has signed a piece of paper (on his company letterhead) directing that I don't need a cat because the car (not engine) is 1971. He said they recently changed the requiremens down here in the ACT


the adoption of national road rules by most state rego authorities has meant changes in these rules all over the place, but the emissions being decided on the year of the engine or the car is basically whichever is the latest. so your 1985-1995 vintage engine in a 1971 car has to meet the ADRs for emmissions for the engine. if you had a 1990 car and wanted to put a 1976 engine in it (can't think why) then the emissions ADRs of the car year would apply. NSW has had this in force for 15 years or more, can't think what the ACT rego were doing in the meantime, but then again porn and fireworks are legal in ACT eh :wink:

having said that, most straight conversins INCLUDING the emissions of post 1990s engines still give a hell of a lot more power and torque than their earlier counterparts, so it is not much of a loss. if you really want to use an aftermarket ecu there are ways of having it tested and then having a testing map and a power map. not that i told you to do it, but anything is possible :wink:

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Not if you use an already approved method of SIP

He suggested taking the SIP bars out of something like a Diahatsu and bolting them inside the side pods. Easy :)


I'm pretty sure the 1972 Export Mokes had "side impact bars" to comply with US laws. Basically it was a couple of pieces of angle iron along the top edge of the side boxes. :shock:

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Thanks for that tip Brett - I will look into that :idea:

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Read the RTA Guidelines for Light Vehicle Modifications (VSI 06) for NSW
especially Upgrade of Safety Equipment, I think it's pretty self explainetary
of what is required and easly acheived for a Mini whether it be a '62 roundnose
or a '78 clubman.
Please don't post misinformation here, get you facts right first.
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In regards with the pod filter. Here in NSW they have to be in a air box, to keep the noise pollution down... Even the new XR8's have a pod filter fitted standard on them but they are in an air box..

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Ohh and mickmini the 'braceing' was called a gusset :lol:

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yep we are in violent agreement on the technical terms :lol:

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Gordo wrote:
In regards with the pod filter. Here in NSW they have to be in a air box, to keep the noise pollution down... Even the new XR8's have a pod filter fitted standard on them but they are in an air box..

So, does this mean all the old Minis running Ramflo etc sports filter(s) are illegal??
I have heard various stories, but weren't they stock on the Police Pack Mk2 S (twin HS4s)?

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drmini in aust wrote:
I have heard various stories, but weren't they stock on the Police Pack Mk2 S (twin HS4s)?


I don't think so unless the noise is excessive, as the noise limit is higher. Pre 1983 cars the limit is 96db. After 1983 the limit is in the mid-80's db range somewhere. Can't remember the exacut figure. :?

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I think it is 90Db thats what it says in the inspection manual I have my hands on...

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sound test is done at 3000rpm and cars pre 1983 must be under 96db, mine was 94db :D

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didn't think that you would need the restrictor in the fuel system. I thought that you couldn't get leaded petrol anymore.


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