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For a glossier finish apparently it is better of to dry naterally rather than bake it... If it is baked it apparently dulls it??


really? i thought all the good ones were baked...can anyone confirm this?

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im sure the factory jobs would be baked at some stage as a time saver and they come out pretty good


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im sure the factory jobs would be baked at some stage as a time saver and they come out pretty good


yeah...thats what i thought :P if i could get it to look anything like factory paint i'd be over the moon...

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what about getting the shell panel beating and the rust taken out and having a go at painting yourself
i think that if the prep work done is fairly good then painting would be a handy and not too hard of a skill to learn and if you mess it up not that expensive to strip back and try again

i am considering this at the moment as i recently bought a new mig and gas cylinder only to have it stolen two weeks later so i think i will just get someone to weld and panel beat maybe ill have a shot at painting then again i dont want a perfect job


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what about getting the shell panel beating and the rust taken out and having a go at painting yourself
i think that if the prep work done is fairly good then painting would be a handy and not too hard of a skill to learn and if you mess it up not that expensive to strip back and try again

i am considering this at the moment as i recently bought a new mig and gas cylinder only to have it stolen two weeks later so i think i will just get someone to weld and panel beat maybe ill have a shot at painting then again i dont want a perfect job


its definitely a possibility...how difficult is it?

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you need a compressor gun and mask you can rent them though
and somewhere clean with no dust
some aint, thinners etc sandpaper

JAMs site has some good info
from people i have spokken to the common element that comes up with paint work is the prep has to be good and if a pros doing that bit well you should be ok just follow the process on the can and practice on some sheet metal

lots of books on it but i dont know like everything there are as matt was saying earlier hidden things that take time and experience to get right
guess it depends if it is something you are into and want as a skill if just a one off just get someone to do it then but i wouldnt mind knowing and developing a skill in the body work area of cars makes restos a lot cheaper in the future


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marcsvenson wrote:
you need a compressor gun and mask you can rent them though
and somewhere clean with no dust
some aint, thinners etc sandpaper

JAMs site has some good info
from people i have spokken to the common element that comes up with paint work is the prep has to be good and if a pros doing that bit well you should be ok just follow the process on the can and practice on some sheet metal

lots of books on it but i dont know like everything there are as matt was saying earlier hidden things that take time and experience to get right
guess it depends if it is something you are into and want as a skill if just a one off just get someone to do it then but i wouldnt mind knowing and developing a skill in the body work area of cars makes restos a lot cheaper in the future


yeah true :) i view this whole process as a skill building exercise...it helps take the edge off the $25,000 ish this whole project is going to set me back :P

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especially when a copressor that is up to the job is $100-200 (jam done his with a $100 one) and a good gun is $140(star) an iwata knock off

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wtf? wolf (the owner of sleeping beauties) said it would cost around $25,000 to get it done...ummm...this is just paint and panel work...how can this be possible? the shell is in good condition, he even said its ALOT better (condition wise) than morphias's so like WTF??? $25,000 is my budget for the entire build...EVERYTHING...$5000 is all i wanna spend on the body and paint...


I haven't waded through the whole thread yet, but I would say $25K is if they did everything to the car. As in a ground up resto, not just the panel and paint work. For that money he would be talking EVERYTHING...engine, gearbox, etc, etc.

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wtf? wolf (the owner of sleeping beauties) said it would cost around $25,000 to get it done...ummm...this is just paint and panel work...how can this be possible? the shell is in good condition, he even said its ALOT better (condition wise) than morphias's so like WTF??? $25,000 is my budget for the entire build...EVERYTHING...$5000 is all i wanna spend on the body and paint...


I haven't waded through the whole thread yet, but I would say $25K is if they did everything to the car. As in a ground up resto, not just the panel and paint work. For that money he would be talking EVERYTHING...engine, gearbox, etc, etc.


the way he was talking it sounded like it was just paint n panels...i was like "huh?"

when he said $25,000 over the phone i thought he was talking about the whole thing...which is OK...but when he was over at my house he sounded more like that was just for bodywork...at which point my enthusiasm for getting him to do it kinda hit the floor...

on sunday i told him that $6000 is the absolute max i am willing to spend on bodywork and getting it painted...to which he said "there's no way we can do it for that"...he then suggested i strip the paint off myself and MAYBE he could do it for about $6000...seems odd that he'd be charging $6000 -> $19,000 to strip the paint off :P i've heard its hard work...but for that price i'd just buy a brand new shell from the UK :P

still got a few more weeks of unscrewing/unbolting this and that...so i've got time to line someone up...got 3 different guys coming over this week to look at it and tell me what they can do for me in terms of panels and paint work...i guess i just have to wait and see what happens here...

patience is not my strong suit :P

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I haven't waded through the whole thread yet, but I would say $25K is if they did everything to the car. As in a ground up resto, not just the panel and paint work. For that money he would be talking EVERYTHING...engine, gearbox, etc, etc.


the way he was talking it sounded like it was just paint n panels...i was like "huh?"

when he said $25,000 over the phone i thought he was talking about the whole thing...which is OK...but when he was over at my house he sounded more like that was just for bodywork...at which point my enthusiasm for getting him to do it kinda hit the floor...

on sunday i told him that $6000 is the absolute max i am willing to spend on bodywork and getting it painted...to which he said "there's no way we can do it for that"...he then suggested i strip the paint off myself and MAYBE he could do it for about $6000...seems odd that he'd be charging $6000 -> $19,000 to strip the paint off :P i've heard its hard work...but for that price i'd just buy a brand new shell from the UK :P

still got a few more weeks of unscrewing/unbolting this and that...so i've got time to line someone up...got 3 different guys coming over this week to look at it and tell me what they can do for me in terms of panels and paint work...i guess i just have to wait and see what happens here...

patience is not my strong suit :P[/quote]

Yeah. I have problems understanding what he actually mean sometimes too.

I have now read the rest of the thread and I am now thinking he meant $25K to gut the car, strip it, do the panel work, prep it, paint it and put all the bits they took off back on. This make sense when you said $6K was your budget and he said you would have to take the car to bare metal yourself to get to that price. This is exactly what I had to do. 3 Saturdays is all it took me.

Now the rust, etc, was pretty nasty in mine as you will se in the pics I am putting up in the next 10mins and the panel beatings, rust work and sandblasting set me back $3K. (which was $1500 better than any other quote I got around Brisbane...which wasn't many because no-one up here wants to do rust repair) I am yet to discuss prices on painting. I may end up taking it somewhere else (don't say anything to him) for that. But for the rust repair and panel beating, I wanted it done by the best because you only really get one go at it and that generally means it costs big money...I am VERY poor ATM. :(

BTW: Sorry I didn't call you on the weekend either. The car still isn't back at the workshop because they do not want to transport a freshly sandblasted car in the wet. He is going to call as soon as it arrives so I can go and take some pics.

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Yeah. I have problems understanding what he actually mean sometimes too.

I have now read the rest of the thread and I am now thinking he meant $25K to gut the car, strip it, do the panel work, prep it, paint it and put all the bits they took off back on. This make sense when you said $6K was your budget and he said you would have to take the car to bare metal yourself to get to that price. This is exactly what I had to do. 3 Saturdays is all it took me.

Now the rust, etc, was pretty nasty in mine as you will se in the pics I am putting up in the next 10mins and the panel beatings, rust work and sandblasting set me back $3K. (which was $1500 better than any other quote I got around Brisbane...which wasn't many because no-one up here wants to do rust repair) I am yet to discuss prices on painting. I may end up taking it somewhere else (don't say anything to him) for that. But for the rust repair and panel beating, I wanted it done by the best because you only really get one go at it and that generally means it costs big money...I am VERY poor ATM. :(

BTW: Sorry I didn't call you on the weekend either. The car still isn't back at the workshop because they do not want to transport a freshly sandblasted car in the wet. He is going to call as soon as it arrives so I can go and take some pics.


well its weird...coz he could see i was taking the thing apart...so he must have gotten the idea i was delivering a bare shell to him...not stripped...but if he wants it stripped its no probs either...just a matter of getting out the old elbow grease and giving it a good scrub down with some paint stripper :P

dont worry i wont tell him you might not get him to do the paint...i dont think he'll mind anyway...he seems to be rolling in cash :P

as for me the jury is still out on who i want to get the body work done by...as i said...still got a couple more weekends of disassembly before i am at the stage of NEEDING a panel beater anyway...i would prefer people who i know are going to do a FAB job...atleast i've got options available to me...the only time this stuff really bugs me is when i get backed into a corner and have to do something thats either too expensive or not as good as i want...

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well its weird...coz he could see i was taking the thing apart...so he must have gotten the idea i was delivering a bare shell to him...not stripped...but if he wants it stripped its no probs either...just a matter of getting out the old elbow grease and giving it a good scrub down with some paint stripper :P

dont worry i wont tell him you might not get him to do the paint...i dont think he'll mind anyway...he seems to be rolling in cash :P

as for me the jury is still out on who i want to get the body work done by...as i said...still got a couple more weekends of disassembly before i am at the stage of NEEDING a panel beater anyway...i would prefer people who i know are going to do a FAB job...atleast i've got options available to me...the only time this stuff really bugs me is when i get backed into a corner and have to do something thats either too expensive or not as good as i want...


Try those guys at Stafford.

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