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It is fortunate that the Product Engineering technical drawings from the factory were photographed to microfilm during the operation of the company in various guises from the 1950s to the late 1980s. We can thank our departed colleague Peter Davis for that circumstance. These technical drawings comprise both UK and Australian-drawn parts and assemblies used for the manufacture of vehicles at Victoria Park and Enfield. The include passenger vehicles, trucks, buses, tractors, and even special products like coffins (made in the Press Shop), and also Land Rover.

Due to the peculiar way in which the microfilms are stored physically, the complete collection remained intact throughout the years on account of the then on-going Army Land Rover activities and responsibilities, the Land Rover drawings being intermixed with all the others. When the Army Land Rover activity ceased, and vehicles sold off, the drawings passed on to the BMC Leyland Australia Heritage Group.

The Heritage Group did not have the motivation or skills to take the drawings to another level, they requiring complete cataloguing and image scanning, so they passed to me. For the past ten years, I have been scanning and cataloguing the collection (over 200,000 of them) and my work is just about complete.

I am now looking for a permanent home for the microfilms – such as a museum or government archive. So far, none that I have approached (Powerhouse museum, City of Sydney Archives) are interested in this unique record of Australian manufacturing activity. I have offered them to Gaydon in UK, but interest quickly fell away when I said that they would have to pay for the freight (over 1 ton of material).

So, I am looking for ideas for their final resting place. There is some kind of Heritage centre outfit going at Eastern Creek, but this (to my knowledge) relies on private donations for its operation and I don’t consider this long term. Further, the microfilms require significant control over their access, not only because they would quickly become unusable if they became stored out of order by unsupervised access, but also liability problems resulting from their use with the manufacture of parts, and also the IP associated with them.

I have not approached the museum in Adelaide as yet, and this could be a possibility but I would need to visit them and just see what sort of place it is. I have visited a museum just out of Perth, but haven’t yet mentioned this project to them. I am not sure it is large enough a place to be considered a permanent home.
So any ideas in this regard would be appreciated.

I might also say that I have done my best to present what I hope are the most interesting drawings to you via my books, from which I make no profit whatsoever, but have done the work for the pleasure of doing it and doing justice to the incredible effort made by the company to produce them in the first place.

The picture below shows one of the drawers (there's about 170 of them) with the microfilm card (called Aperture Cards) inside.

Tony Cripps


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:26 am 
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What about NSW State Archives or National Archives?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:25 am 
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Good suggestions. I did try the National Library in Canberra, but they didn't want them - and they suggested the Powerhouse (which I think would be great) but I think the Powerhouse museum (who also turned them down) is in a bit of a state of flux so perhaps they might be worth another go. The State Archives (to my knowledge) share the same repository at the City of Sydney Archives out near St Mary's somewhere in western Sydney. I'll try it.


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The State Archives are at Claremont meadows the next suburb west of St marys

There on O'Connell St Claremont meadows across the road from the University


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The next destination for this valuable resource would in part depend on the aim for them. If the desire is to make them available for public access then tight control would be needed when borrowing so aperture cards are not damaged, stolen or otherwise lost, and are replaced in the correct spot after use. How would that work if someone wanted to view hundreds of drawings in one session, for example? It would be quite labour intensive for the custodian to manage.

Specialised equipment is needed to view the transparency on the aperture card. In my case I use a ScanPro scanner, a commercial grade item often found in public libraries where it is used to view microfiche and microfilm. This item is not cheap, costing around $20,000 to purchase. Operating the scanner requires training to get the best results.

Another option is for someone to offer a facility whereby requests for drawings are serviced for a fee.

Copyright of the material is another issue that would need to be addressed.

Finding the next home for the drawings is not as straightforward as some might imagine.

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In thinking over the suggestions above, and also from a couple of phone calls and emails, it is becoming clearer as to what might be manageable or not. For the physical microfilms, public access probably won’t be realistic.

Cards are grouped into two main lots, Australian and UK. The way in which they are ordered differs. For the Australian drawings, the storage order is shown in the example below.
AYH3685
EXP3685
HYA3685
HYB3685
AYH3686
EXP3686
HYA3686
HYB3686
AYH3687
EXP3687
HYA3687
HYA3687
HYA3687
HYA3687
HYA3687
HYA3687
HYA3687

As you can see, the cards are stored numerically, and then alphabetically. It’s fine once you get used to it. But this means that AYA4656 is not stored next to AYA4657 for example.

For the UK drawings, the order is slightly different as shown for some drawings ending in 7488.
AHA7488
AHH7488
ATA7488
CZK7488
CZK7488
EAM7488
14A7488
1G7488
2K7488
4K7488
11K7488
21K7488
24K7488

Here, the cards are sorted numerically (suffix), then by the “BMC” system (alphabetical prefix), then by the “Austin” system in which the letter part of the prefix is sorted first, and then the number part of the prefix. There is a logic to it.

A particular part may exist on an assembly drawing, or included on another drawing which has a different number, or be on a drawing all of its own. Often, to locate a drawing, it is necessary to dig through a few layers of cross references to find the actual drawing needed, and then you might find because the drawing was so large originally, it was microfilmed over three or four frames which then have to be stitched together if you want to see the whole thing at once.

Since multiple cards are usually involved in any one search and sprinkled all over the place, for public access, one must rely on the person putting the cards back exactly where they came from. More than 20 or so cards out of sequence then a card might as well be considered lost and can then only be found by accident. Can the general public to be fastidious in this respect?

As Doug mentioned, once you’ve located the card(s) you wanted, then it is necessary to view the 35mm microfilm on the card. You can do this with a microfiche reader, or a dedicated aperture card scanner – the latter being far preferable but quite expensive and usually only found in libraries. Then, you need to print the image – and many of the drawings require adjustments to contrast and brightness – sometimes for different portions of the same image, to get something readable.

The whole process might take up to an hour by the time you have a drawing in your hand.
I am sure you are all fascinated by this lengthy description but if you would like to understand the steps required, such as would have an engineer at the factory, this is what had to happen.

The microfilms, being high resolution 35mm film, requires storage in an appropriate atmosphere (dry and cool) and now some have started to fade quite a bit after their 40 years of existence.

While I think it is important that the physical cards be preserved for historical reasons, and they are the closest version to the original paper drawings we have, access by interested persons unsupervised, without the required equipment, is probably not workable. The only way the original cards can be used is if a small number of dedicated persons have complete control over the whole thing to ensure they are properly stored and looked after – and Peter Davis at the factory had four blokes full time on this activity.

This brings us to the digital versions of these drawings.

There are two aspects to this – an actual digital scan of the microfilms, and then a computerised listing, or catalogue, of what’s actually there.

For digital scanning, I used an ancient Wicks and Wilson aperture card scanner which runs only on Windows XP using an old style of DMA interface card. Somehow I’ve kept this thing going for over 10 years (already some 30 years old when I got it) and its scanned about 200,000 cards and still going, but you really need to know what you are doing with it and be willing to repair gears, drive belts, circuits, and make adjustments to the optics and so on to get it to produce something good. The files are TIFF format and it can scan up to 400 dpi, but due to the nature of the software, once a file gets larger than about 12 MB it crashes and then you have to reduce to 300 dpi – still more than adequate to allow significant zooming in.

The cards themselves are usually plain cardboard with handwritten drawing numbers on them, but a very small number of cards are punched with what is called Hollerith data – in which the scanner can interpret as text and name the file with the part number. But, for about 99% of cases, the files just come out SCAN0001.TIFF and so on.

So, in order to get all this into a usable state, one has to handle each and every of the cards and write down the part number and match it against the digital file name. I think it took me about five years to get to this point.

What is even more useful is to have a Description of the part, the date of the drawing, and the model to which the part applies. Unfortunately, this is only on the actual drawing and so one has to page through each image file, zoom in, rotate, flip, invert, squint, etc and write this down against the part number.

The picture below shows a very small part of the overall catalogue file, everything is hand typed in. The whole database has 200,000 records.

On one occasion, I asked John Smidt if I could borrow his parts list and match the part number with the description had had already assigned to it. I thought this would save a lot of time at least for Mini parts, but alas, John’s descriptions did not often match what was written in the parts book or on the drawing – he would write something like “Door Handle early model with sliding windows”, or “Badge, second hand”. In the end, I took the Descriptions direct from the drawings and these often do not match with the Service Parts books – what we would refer to as a “gasket” would be called a “Joint Washer” on the drawing.

To manage all this, I wrote an application in Visual Basic which allows any drawing to be located quickly based upon a simple search of part number, description and model, and then displayed on the screen. The catalogue can also be searched using SQL language statements for complicated searches. A list of part numbers could be dispensed within seconds. The App could cross check for missing drawings, inconsistent filenames, import scanned part numbers from a parts book, and many other functions. The images can be zoomed, rotated, panned, clipped, saved to JPG, copied to clipboard, etc. There’s no way I could have produced those books without a facility like this, and it took years to develop.

Now, should all this be made public access? Yes! you say – but there are some problems. The whole thing took about 100 DVD’s to back up, and this gives you an idea of the storage space needed on someone’s server. An App is required (I’ve written one) with a web interface which requires ongoing maintenance for bug fixes and improvements, let alone its initial development. The IP of the content is undetermined and there could be liability problems arising from the manufacture of parts from the drawings, and once a drawing is downloaded, it might as well be given away to everyone (look what happened to Craig Watsons’ magazine).

So, while my thread was initially about long term preservation so the cards, I think it worthwhile that you realise the magnitude of the effort that has gone into this project as a whole so that the material is given the respect it deserves. A terrific resource and testament to the efforts of those in the factory - if only they had an IBM PC at the time.

Regards, Tony Cripps


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