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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:59 pm 
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Hi all, Just wondering if anybody out their has purchased a new British Motor heritage bodyshell
thru oz.minispot from their parent company minisport in the UK. Was it a good experience and
were there any significant delays etc. I have not put in an order yet but because it is a high price
item I'm just doing my homework.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:33 pm 
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Mini & Moke World in Brookvale, Sydney had a road registered car using a new BMH shell at the Mini Show a few months ago. Might be worth talking to them.

Here's some background videos - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=100223

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:49 pm 
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Cutting the numbers out of a rusty car and welding them into a new shell (or simply restamping) isn't legal (so "everyone" says, but I don't know what the laws are), but smash repairers used to be able to buy a whole new Commodore/Falcon etc. bodyshell from the factory to replace one that was damaged beyond repair.. so?

However there are definitely 60's Mustangs around that are new body shells imported from USA, and I reckon they're registered as replicas.. There was a little bit of discussion about it on Facebook a few months ago - MMW (Andrew Bergan I think) saying it was legal - I asked if it was registered as a replica and he didn't reply so... ?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:58 pm 
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here's what Vicroads says about replicas..

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A Club Permit can be issued to the vehicles in the following categories:

veteran vehicles – manufactured before 1 January 1919
vintage vehicles – manufactured after 31 December 1918 and before 1 January 1931
classic and historic vehicles – manufactured after 31 December 1930, but more than 25 years before the date of the application for a Club Permit.
These categories can include trailers, heavy vehicles and modified vehicles such as street rods. Replicas of vehicles eligible for the above categories may also be issued with a Club Permit. Replica vehicles will be issued a club permit under the classic and historic vehicles category irrespective of the vehicle being replicated.

A replica means a light motor vehicle that is an individually constructed vehicle that resembles, as close as practicable, the appearance and dimensions of the production vehicle on which its design is based.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:37 pm 
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Thanks guys, I'm 64 now and totally over cutting out rust. I will contact mini & moke, interestingly I bought a mini from them in 2005.
Thanks also for the links.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:01 pm 
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HI simon k & rossj

Remember building you a mini around a minimania supercharged unit nearly 20 years back.
Nice little car.

I may not have replied to you simonk as i didn't know too much more re the new BMH mk 1 shell
and the process.
I commented originally as a number of people said it couldn't be done.

It was walked through a process with minispares UK & the owner had the new shell passed
with all paperwork completed through authorties in Canberra.
Thats all i know.

We have two customers who have done this now.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:20 pm 
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Wow, I just got some query's answered from oz minisport. When you add shipping costs to a mk4 or 5 shell you are looking at 20k total and for a mk1 shell, 25k,
then you have gst and duty on top of that.
I was contemplating on doing a K20 vtec build as I have an engine that I picked up 2 years ago during the pandemic, still sitting in my garage getting lonely. I was
hoping to put it in a round nose but that would require a f/glass extended front end. From what I've since read, they are not street legal in Australia. I could always
mount the radiator in front of the grill , not that good a look though. I think my only option is to find some more options.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:32 am 
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What is wrong with a radiator in front of the grill???

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looks fine to me. :)


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:21 am 
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Nice, I see what you mean Steam. I think it's got a bit of a Bently look happening. Might add value. What's under the bonnet I wonder.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 12:29 pm 
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That was a project from many years ago. It has a MG Metro Turbo engine and I could not get it to cool at all with the side rad. As soon as I put the correct rd for the engine in out front all was good.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:09 pm 
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Rossj wrote:
I was contemplating on doing a K20 vtec build as I have an engine that I picked up 2 years ago during the pandemic, still sitting in my garage getting lonely. I was
hoping to put it in a round nose but that would require a f/glass extended front end. From what I've since read, they are not street legal in Australia. I could always
mount the radiator in front of the grill , not that good a look though. I think my only option is to find some more options.


No point starting with a heritage shell for a conversion car - better off finding something more complete - even if it needs a little bodywork.
Just cause you have the engine sitting there doesn't mean it has to go into a mini. If you want to use it on a car that doesn't require body mods, maybe you should stick it into an EK Civic? :P


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Depending on which spec mini you use as a starting point, it might be difficult to get a 2.0L engine signed off without doing an ICV. VSB14 suggests the vehicle weight x 3 = maximum engine cc

You’d need a mini that’s on their system as above 667kg starting weight

If you went through the ICV scheme you may be able to get a flip front certified at the same time

If you are on Facebook, check out Dutchys Mini. He’s putting a Subaru WRX engine in the back of a mini and might have some tips on planning your project and the hoops to get it on the road
https://www.facebook.com/Dutchysmini

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 3:28 pm 
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Here's a built up BMIHT shell a mate loaned me a few years ago.

Cheers, Ian


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:26 pm 
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Ah yes, Ian, but that's in the Untied States.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:58 pm 
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How can you tell 8)

I meant it just as an example of what could be done.

Having gone through the rego process a couple of times with my UK cars I wouldn’t at all be concerned about fronting up with my old rego papers and the appropriate number stamped number on the fire wall.

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