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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:51 pm 
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Just a general question on how people feel about the braking performance from the 8.4" disc setup. I have that on mine (haven't driven it yet) and I am hoping it will be pretty good for the weight of the car, bigger than the 7.5's so I assume they'll be fine. No brake booster fitted, not sure it they make a difference or not?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:01 pm 
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Yes a booster makes a difference it feels like a modern car not Fred Flintstone's.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:43 pm 
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Doc! haha! I'm a Fred Flintstone then!

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought without a booster the brake efficiency is the same but you just have to stand on them a bit!?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:09 pm 
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Am I right in saying the last Mini (1275 LS) had 8.4" discs with no booster.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:11 pm 
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Yes. An MG midget had the same, they felt like a block of wood too.
My car has S brakes and greenstuffs. Had no booster for 25 years but I had one on the shelf.
Fitted it on a few years ago, no way now would I remove it. :)
It lives under the dash... No room under bonnet due to Matic heater.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:15 pm 
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deluxe67 wrote:
Doc! haha! I'm a Fred Flintstone then!

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought without a booster the brake efficiency is the same but you just have to stand on them a bit!?

Correct. The booster doesn't change the pad to disc friction, just the force at the pedal.
I've been driving my 7-1/2" disc braked mini with no booster for some years now and am accustomed to the pedal effort. My son took it for a drive over Christmas with me and remarked how hard you had to push the brake pedal.
Doc is correct that a booster will make it feel more modern, but so would power steering, air con, twin cam, 6 speed auto, power windows,......
I like my mini as it came, simple raw motoring.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:24 pm 
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So Phil, stick with what I've got I think? I really couldn't be bothered with all the effort/ expense/ dramas to install a booster.
However, I do warn/ train anyone who takes my cab for a drive they must STAND on the brakes if they want to stop in a hurry!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:05 pm 
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So the 8.4" brakes will stop the mini pretty well? Just have to stomp on them a bit, I can live with that I think.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:11 pm 
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cooperess wrote:
Am I right in saying the last Mini (1275 LS) had 8.4" discs with no booster.

Yes, that’s right!
Tandem master but not power assisted.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:34 pm 
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I have the 8.4's, no booster. There is no stomping required, I find big toe pushing sufficient in traffic, but I guess it depends on how hard you drive.

I drove around with the drums for a while and got used to the stopping distance.

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How are 8.4's compared directly to 7.5's?
Lets say it's the same car, same wheels, same road etc what is the difference?
Coming to a normal stop from 60km/h would be easier and or quicker yeah?
Is brake fade and heat issues less common?
I'd assume breaking distance under heavy/emergency braking would be the same as tyres would be the limiting factor...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:14 am 
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8.4 needs less pedal effort than the 7.5, both unboosted and with greenstuff pads.
Not exactly like for like as my car has 13" wheels to suit the bigger brakes.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:51 am 
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Man, having 4 wheel drums and no booster is a learning curve. I thought stopping the torana was hard. Feels like the whole weight of the car on one foot haha! I was thinking of 7.5s and no booster just for a bit of safety, but I am definitely enjoying the "active driving" aspect. Im interested how you mount a booster inside though??

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:09 pm 
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Ha ha. It's funny reading stuff like this. Back in the dark ages, cooper s discs were state of the art. You could go further back to Austin 7 's.... cable operated on two wheels only. More lime speed retarders than actual brakes.


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 Post subject: Re: How good are the 8.4
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:52 pm 
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bluehishouse wrote:
Im interested how you mount a booster inside though??

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I drilled 2 holes in the firewall, and made another sandwich plate for the 2 brake lines and vacuum hose, where heater hoses normally go through.
Will add pics shortly.
Booster is a MK 2 S one, PBR VH 44J.
I can pull the motor out without the drama of booster and piping in the way.

There is more foot room than there is with a Clubby heater.

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