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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:37 am 
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Back in Oct last year i brought a 1st car for my youngest daughter from a bloke who turned out to be an ex BMC mechanic , we got talking about minis and he told me that he'd had some mini tools when he had a mechanical business which he'd sold some years ago, he left the tools there when he sold up .

He chased up the bloke to see if he still had them and they were still in the bottom of the cupboard where he'd left them when he had the business , the new owner had no knowledge of what they were for, and he agreed to sell them to me after i contacted him .


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:09 am 
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Cool, I like hearing stories of people coming across old stuff like that. I'm not sure what any of those tools are for but they look impressive.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:00 am 
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That Primary gear oil seal tool is a good one, there should be a long bolt to pull the seal in, but most people just bashed it in using the bell! the blue steel one is to protect the seal as it slides over the primary gear splines. Is that knocking spanner for the flywheel bolt?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:28 pm 
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minimans wrote:
That Primary gear oil seal tool is a good one, there should be a long bolt to pull the seal in, but most people just bashed it in using the bell! the blue steel one is to protect the seal as it slides over the primary gear splines. Is that knocking spanner for the flywheel bolt?



Spot on minimans , the bell is used with the crank bolt to push the seal into it's correct position , i wasn't quite sure as how it worked properly until i found this Youtube vid which shows the exact tool being used ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY_AY6SdMHM .


As for the spanner , my thoughts were that it is used when you are removing the flywheel whilst the engine is in the car .


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:52 am 
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Yeah looks like a flogging spanner. You can get hammer driven impact bars with sockets these days

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If you tell me the part number engraved on the tools I can post the relevant page from the Litchfield service tool catalogue, if it's of interest.

As a start here is the page showing E5410 (EF5410).

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:26 pm 
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winabbey wrote:
If you tell me the part number engraved on the tools I can post the relevant page from the Litchfield service tool catalogue, if it's of interest.

As a start here is the page showing E5410 (EF5410).

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As a slight deviation from topic, do you have a listing for 18G584 (it looks like the tool at the top of your pic).

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:48 pm 
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Thanks for that Doug , i would be interested because it's different to the Austalloy type that i have ,
in that it has 2 sets of studs , one with shorter threads ( fine thread ) where you attach the stud to the flywheel , and 2 crankshaft buttons , one of which is attached to the centre bolt and doesn't appear to be able to removed , has anyone else seen or use this type of puller ?

I'll get some pics of the 2 pullers side by side tomorrow and another one of the backside of the Litchfield one to show the difference

the part No: on it is E 5410 .

I just had another look at the pics in your bulletin Doug and seen that there are 2 different types of pullers .


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MiniBrad wrote:
As a slight deviation from topic, do you have a listing for 18G584 (it looks like the tool at the top of your pic).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:12 pm 
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goodie wrote:
Thanks for that Doug , i would be interested because it's different to the Austalloy type that i have ,
in that it has 2 sets of studs , one with shorter threads ( fine thread ) where you attach the stud to the flywheel , and 2 crankshaft buttons , one of which is attached to the centre bolt and doesn't appear to be able to removed , has anyone else seen or use this type of puller ?

I'll get some pics of the 2 pullers side by side tomorrow and another one of the backside of the Litchfield one to show the difference

the part No: on it is E 5410 .

I just had another look at the pics in your bulletin Doug and seen that there are 2 different types of pullers .

Litchfield were the Australian manufacturers and distributors of BMC and Leyland service tools. They also had their own tools to do similar jobs. Your E5410 is a Litchfield tool. If you look at the catalogue page I posted you'll see there isn't an equivalent BMC number.

BMC's tool for flywheel removal and many other pulling jobs is 18G304, or 18GA304 for the Australian tool, which is shown just above E5410 on the page.

Churchill were the UK manufacturers of BMC's service tools. On the following page from the Churchill catalogue you'll see the basic 18G304 tool is slightly different to Litchfield's equivalent. Also on the page below are adapters 304M (for coil spring clutches) and 304N (for diaphragm clutches). Those adapters may be the equivalent of the two sets of screws you mention.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:36 pm 
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Your Litchfield E5410 featured in the huge Repco Parts Catalogue in 1970.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:38 pm 
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winabbey wrote:
MiniBrad wrote:
As a slight deviation from topic, do you have a listing for 18G584 (it looks like the tool at the top of your pic).
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Cheers, Now when I find some time I'm going to have a look at some of the old tools we have at work & try & figure out how many are Mini related.

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MiniBrad wrote:
Cheers, Now when I find some time I'm going to have a look at some of the old tools we have at work & try & figure out how many are Mini related.

Brad

If you have any genuine BMC-endorsed service tools they will have an 18G prefixed number stamped on them.

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So what's the flogging spanner for? Surely not spark plugs?!

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winabbey wrote:
MiniBrad wrote:
Cheers, Now when I find some time I'm going to have a look at some of the old tools we have at work & try & figure out how many are Mini related.

Brad

If you have any genuine BMC-endorsed service tools they will have an 18G prefixed number stamped on them.



Jaguar special tools up until the mid 90's(?) started with 18G as well & it was the same with Aston Martin special tools from the 90's (some were the exact tool as the Jag tools). We were once a Leyland dealer so it's possible there are tools for all sorts of brands from the 70's & onwards.

It was the MOWOG stamp that caught my eye on the tool I asked about in the previous post.

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