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 Post subject: Cams for Cooper S
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:52 pm 
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Just wondering what you guys have used in sports type cams for the 1275 Cooper S engines
I am looking for something street-able but giving good top end
GR suggested a 266 cam
But i was looking at some Kent cam specs for the 276 cam
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 Post subject: Re: Cams for Cooper S
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:56 pm 
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I have a GR 266 ss cam in my 1275 but haven't used it yet. Will know soon when I dyno the engine.


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 Post subject: Re: Cams for Cooper S
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RE266 SS with 1.5 rockers works well with twin HS4 carbs. So does an RE13, which gives a little more top end.
I ran a Camtech VP3 with 1.5 rockers in my 1310S motor. Carby was a 45 Dellorto.
After 50,000 miles the lobes were worn badly.
Graham's cams have a bigger nose radius, they last longer.

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 Post subject: Re: Cams for Cooper S
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:29 pm 
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I'm using a GR 266ss, in an 1100S block out to 1330cc, single 1.3/4 su & maniflow extractors, std s type rockers,
very good road cam with good spread of power, it takes full throttle less than 2000rpm,
goes to 6500 / 7000, & has great torque,
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 Post subject: Re: Cams for Cooper S
PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:09 am 
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So who has a suitable used camshaft i can buy to send in to get reground
Rather keep my original cam and regrind another
MK2 Cooper S 1970
Do these have wider lobes than std cams?
And what type of drive for the oil pump is used?

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 Post subject: Re: Cams for Cooper S
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All 1275 cams have the wider 1/2" lobes. So do all A+ motors including 998A+.
Cooper S are pin drive, other 1275 A series are spider drive.
A+ are all slot drive.
To use spider or slot drive in an S block you need to drill and tap 1more hole in the block.

Cooper S pin drive pumps are very expensive now. The others are cheap, around $40.

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 Post subject: Re: Cams for Cooper S
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GundyGuy wrote:
So who has a suitable used camshaft i can buy to send in to get reground


http://minikingdomonline.com.au/product ... ight-sale/

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 Post subject: Re: Cams for Cooper S
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winabbey wrote:
GundyGuy wrote:
So who has a suitable used camshaft i can buy to send in to get reground


http://minikingdomonline.com.au/product ... ight-sale/


A lot easier and cheaper to buy it already done - only $195 outright or $165 exchange.


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 Post subject: Re: Cams for Cooper S
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This engine was rebuilt by Rodney Hansen in Toowoomba some years ago
I will contact him to see if he had done any mods like camshaft etc
But i feel its still a standard cooper s engine

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 Post subject: Re: Cams for Cooper S
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Was talking to a well known Mini person today and he suggested a 30/70 cam
Now if i am correct that means the inlet opens 30 deg btdc and closes 70 deg atdc
So how does all this compare to duration specs on cams
Anyone got a graph to show how these 2 different specs workout
Been a long time since i stuffed around with cams in engines and since i had my brain removed due to lack of use i have forgotten :?

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Those numbers (you add 180deg) give 280 degrees duration. These days you can get better torque and HP whilst running less duration. Better drivability.
Big duration = a pig in traffic, usually.

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 Post subject: Re: Cams for Cooper S
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:57 pm 
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But how do you find out the btdc and abdc figures with today's cams when they only give you a duration

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 Post subject: Re: Cams for Cooper S
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:21 pm 
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go to kent cams ( for example and look at their bmc grind specs,,,,,,


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 Post subject: Re: Cams for Cooper S
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Ask the cam grinder. GR will tell you if you ask nice.
Tighe cams has their specs listed, so does Camtech.
There is much more to cam design than duration.

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