Hi guys,

Due to all the 4EFTE conversions flying around the place.. I've recently had the idea of sticking a 5E-FE 1.5L nat asp engine in my Mini K.

I'm pretty sure the only difference in the two engines is the block height.

I'm considering the 1.5 over the turbo 1.3 as I dont need turbo power and I dont want to upset the weight balance of the car too much with massive turbos and intercoolers, etc. I also think I'd have more clearance in a roundie with only extractors to worry about and not a turbo.

Would It be a matter of making up a similar subframe to the 4EFTE one and off I go?

I already have a place to do it for me and It seems relatively straight forward, just wanted to check there was nothing thats going to bite me in the ass when I bolt it in...


Cheers,
Sam


P.S: I also sized up the 1.5 twin cam engine in my Excel which looks like it would fit

Ok so I had another look at my Excel engine and I think it will fit nicely with some massaging... I bet that has never been done before!

Its the 5E-FE or the 1.5 Alpha...

If your talking about the exel engine not the toyota engine the exel has a massive gearbox I doubt you will have the room.

Length-ways I think its fine, its just where the driveshafts come out looks rather huge...

Actually the more I think about it, the more I like it!

Imagine...

You just got wasted by a Mini AND a Hyundai.. the ultimate shame!

I am still partial to the G13b suzuki twin cam engine revability and reliabilty.

G13b are hard to find. Nice little motor but how much better are they than a nicely built up A series?

The ultimate atmo engine would have to be a Honda Vtec, the best being the K series. 2.0L or 2.2L. They have some on the road in USA, and dam, they go hard.

Or I guess a B18 would be fun, not quite as much go as K series but still, more thna enough power!

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1964 Morris 850, 1330 Supercharged - 81.8hp atws.
1975 Leyland Mini S 1100S powered - Nice and reliable.
1977 Leyland Mini LS - Project LS-T

they are heaps better standard than a A series built up 100hp ozzy delivered model with 110 hp jap spec plus plenty of performance mods available a mate had a 1310 worked a series I had a standard g13b fuel injected motor left him for dead in all ways take off top end and fuel efficient plus 5 speed standard high tech motor for it day .

5e-fe has a much larger inlet track and plenum - big enough to force you to go custom $$

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with the fury of a Monkey Dishwasher aimed at your Purple

57 Morris minor
88 Rover Mini

My mate at work had a stocko G13B bought new.
My 100HP+ modified 1310S used to waste him off the mark to 100KMH at least.
At 100,000 km, his gearbox was toasted- the bearings were shot.
I like Suzukis too, great motor but I think the gearbox is marginal. This is not an isolated problem he had.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

G13b sounds like a nice motor, but I think my mini would put out more atws power on a dyno than a Suzuki GTi, not mention my mini is lighter.

But then again, my mini's boosted, so it's a little unfair.

I just don't think a G13b conversion is justified, when a 4EFTE or B16/B18, are so much better.

You could always turbo a G13b though.... that would be fun.

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1964 Morris 850, 1330 Supercharged - 81.8hp atws.
1975 Leyland Mini S 1100S powered - Nice and reliable.
1977 Leyland Mini LS - Project LS-T

G13b turbo 123 kws at wheels only gearbox trouble when you flat shift and take off using 4500 rpm launches . stock engine turbo charged.
Broke one then replaced with cino box all good so far.

then they start breaking .

the motor weighs 60 kilos and gearbox probably another 20 .

light good power pack but yes the toyota starlet motor is the next generation of performance. And readily available.

By the way I have a GTI Turboed aswell ....

You don't want to upset the weight balance of the car..but you want to stick a 1.5L motor in?

The 4EFTE retains about the exact same weight as an A-series does - My Clubby weighs exactly 700kg with 4EFTE engine and that's about the same as it weighed from the factory...

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Starlet Conversion:
http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15484

mini's arnt balanced that great to begin with, they are front heavy. and i agree with mini mad on the weight of the engine.

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An alloy 1.5L. It would weigh the same or less as a cast-iron A-series.

I only want to match or have even less weight in the front than a good A-series. And the way I'm going to add more power to my A-series is by a supercharger, so you have to take into account the added weight from those things also.

A 4efte would be nice , and I have by no means discounted it as I can get one for $1600. I'm just trying to figure out whether I can cram it all in there neatly. The only one i've seen done nice and neat in a roundie is a creamy looking one