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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:09 pm 
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Oops, I will try to down load the photo again


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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:55 pm 
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wendy wrote:
Oops, I will try to down load the photo again


That is exactly how the early MK1 S body numbers were stamped. The M2/06 was at right angle to the body number. Later cars had the M2/06 all over the place.
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YKG2S2 955 M2-06 0464 .jpg


The car would be around YKG2S2 1070 - 1080. Only the 4 numbers will be stamped into the firewall.


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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:19 am 
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Many thanks for that, you have finally solved my puzzle. the engine lines up loosely with the same time in mid April "66, 9FSaY 393358. I will try to find the stamped number on the body however there was a lot of surface rust in that area due to a large rats nest and parked in a damp shed. thank you again for your help, I am excited.!!


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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:58 am 
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Many thanks for that, you have finally solved my puzzle. the engine lines up loosely with the same time in mid April "66, 9FSaY 393358. I will try to find the stamped number on the body however there was a lot of surface rust in that area due to a large rats nest and parked in a damp shed. thank you again for your help, I am excited.!!


Looks like you have an extra digit in the engine number.

To confirm the stamping is original there are a few things to look at.

The engines up to 9FSaY 40000 had a small "a" and had 3 "backslashes".

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9FSaY 39000 series stamping. Small a and 3 backslashes.jpg


Engines after 9FSAY 40000 had a large "A" and 2 "backslashes".

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9FSAY 40000 series stamping. Large A and 2 backslashes..jpg


I haven't been able to confirm the exact change but it was somewhere around 40000 and 40250.


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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
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Looks like you have an extra digit in the engine number.

Perhaps simply typo with wendy's keying, or the last character is an S (meaning sleeved) and not 8?

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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:50 pm 
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I had grand children hanging off me when I put the engine number in , it is actually 9FSaY 39358.
I am working on the firewall, which is very rusty, however I believe it to be 1077 or 1037. I am guessing that the number 3 may be a horizontal line on the top not rounded. if rounded it will be 1077.The numbers are very faint and a bit of imagination is needed due to rust!! I will try for a Photo


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wendy wrote:
I had grand children hanging off me when I put the engine number in , it is actually 9FSaY 39358.
I am working on the firewall, which is very rusty, however I believe it to be 1077 or 1037. I am guessing that the number 3 may be a horizontal line on the top not rounded. if rounded it will be 1077.The numbers are very faint and a bit of imagination is needed due to rust!! I will try for a Photo


The number 3 stamped into the firewall had a flat top. I would expect your car to more likely be YKG2S2 1077 going by the body number. I have attached a photo of the stamping for a firewall chassis number with a 3 and 7 to compare with.

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2397 Firewall Chassis stamping.jpg



The radiator shroud body number had a rounded 3 like below.

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3171 Radiator Shroud Body Stamping.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:11 am 
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The numbers are very faint and a bit of imagination is needed due to rust!! I will try for a Photo


Try wetting the area and very gently rubbing with steel wool and soap :idea:

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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
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The numbers are faint however I ran a black texta over them to highlight them for the photo


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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:00 pm 
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The numbers are faint however I ran a black texta over them to highlight them for the photo




I found the Chassis number for 1078 and the 7 has a small drop down at the top left.

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1078 stamping.jpg


Do you think that yours was New British Racing Green with a Toga White roof like car 1078?

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YKG2S2 1078 New BRG -Toga White roof.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:16 pm 
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Looking at Wendy's pics it looks like car number 1077.
Don't blame the rats and the damp entirely.
The car number was stamped after the body was painted and the paint was not retouched so the punched numbers rusted.
My first S was car 1090, engine number 39922 and the same colours as car 1078 shown above. The "NEW" British Racing Green paint colour always puzzled me.
It was purchased in July 1966 from Goulds Motors in High St Northcote.
Engine numbers don't appear to be matched in sequence to body numbers on the production line as the engine numbers were stamped into the ID plate after the plate was stamped and presumably fixed to the firewall.

Perhaps the upper case A started at engine number 40006 as there were changes to the camshaft and, IIRC, the crankshaft at that engine number.
Camshaft was changed from AEG148 to AEG510 and, IIRC, the crankshaft oilways were cross drilled.
Lucas 23D4 distributor advance curve and service number were changed from 40819 B to 40819 H to match the AEG510 cam.
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Also in my previous reply I forgot to mention there was no cross angle bracing bar in the grille opening. It was vertical the same as non S cars.

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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:23 pm 
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miniron wrote:
Perhaps the upper case A started at engine number 40006 as there were changes to the camshaft and, IIRC, the crankshaft at that engine number.
Camshaft was changed from AEG148 to AEG510 and, IIRC, the crankshaft oilways were cross drilled.
Lucas 23D4 distributor advance curve and service number were changed from 40819 B to 40819 H to match the AEG510 cam.
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I don't know why I didn't think of that earlier. It makes perfect sense. Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:18 pm 
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It's only a possible explanation/guess. Nothing to prove one way or the other.

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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:44 pm 
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wendy wrote:
The vehicle has wind up windows. I stripped the paint back to the metal and there was no other colour under the top coat which was BRG with a white roof, which is not a Deluxe colour I believe!! . There are none of the tabs in the boot for the second tank nor the bracket for an oil cooler. It does not have any visible numbers behind the master cylinders however it was about the rustiest part of the car due to a large rats nest! The mystery continues!!!


Just a few photos of the other things to check over.

Your car wont have the tabs on the drivers side to hold the breather hose. They came in at around car 2300. Your car should have 2 holes in the same spot.
Attachment:
Fuel vent pipe clip holes pre car 2300.jpg


They fitted metal clips into these holes at approx car 1000 - 1100.
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1966 MK1 S Vent pipe clips pre 2300.jpg


The electric fuel pump has a vent piped into the cabin. A plastic rivet can be seen under the rear seat - passenger side.
Attachment:
Fuel breather vent under rear passenger seat.jpg


The heater J brackets are another thing to check. They are spotwelded in 3 spots each.
Attachment:
Spotwelded Heater J brackets.jpg


As mentioned before the early MK1 S had a vertical support brace for the slam panel. The oil cooler was a 9 row and it was bolted up to the engine. The change to 13 row oil cooler and an angled brace was car 1344.
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Vertical brace and 9 row oil cooler pre car 1344.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: body identification?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:11 pm 
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I attached three more photos, my car does not appear to have had a centre bracket behind the grille however there is the remains of a spot welded bracket in front of the oil filter. It did not have an oil cooler present when I bought the car.


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