I have been investigating the different alternatives for an engine conversion for my mini. Can anyone tell me how much bigger the engine bay on a clubman compared to a roundnose is?

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Ok,,,just kidding...it`s actually 4 inches longer, but the same side to side

My turbo charged 4.7litre Alloy V8 fits in a clubman,,,but not in a roundy

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No offence intended here but--> anyone writing a book about minis 30 years ago may not have experienced such worn or stuffed-with components as we are finding these days.

You should put your heart & soul into everything you do.

What about height?

What would I have to extend to get a 4EFTE into my round nose mini? Just extend the nose or would the bonnent be too low as well? I have read that the gearbox on a 4EFTE is the problem as far as size goes is there a smaller toyota gearbox that would fit?

Forget the 4EFTE.....

Use a Suzuki GTi twin cam and 5 speed.... it will fit in a round nose. You can turbo it later if required

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[NATHAN] -- Sold everything mini related and am back in big beautiful BMWs

As a guide, when they have fitted the Vtec into roundies in the UK, they extend the front by around 50mm......... so if you used that as a rule of thumb i think you would be right.

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I got nuthin......................

It's not just the nose they extend, it's the wheelbase..
Problem with the VTEC is, the gearbox fouls the RHD rack. If you can work out how to move the rack (and floor) back 40mm it'll fit a roundnose.
Or go LHD.... yeah, right!

4EFTE into a roundnose... extending the front guards a bit would do it. Different problem to VTEC, just needs more room at the front.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

the G13B gti engine looks a lot smaller than the 4efte motor, ill post a new thread in the gallery this afternoon or tonight after work, its neally finished

theres a heap of roundies with gti motors in them, and they dont seem to have any troubles fitting them, but a turbo is sometimes out of the question..

good luck if your going to put a 4efte in a roundie but

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Con Torresi, has the measurements on a thread on here somwhere as I asked him the same question about the size difference between the 4efte and the Suzuki G13B. There actually alot in it. Just differences in certain directions. But everyone's right it is much easier to get a G13B into a roundnose.

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225hp atw on 14psi. 1/4 Mile no idea. Take one 1971 Mini Clubman, one Starlet GT Halfcut, Simmer over a warm MIG Welder, and Voila Minstar! www.mpdesign.id.au

i cannot find this topic you speak of matt

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Expert in training

look here-
http://www.miniman.com.au/black.htm

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

I forgot that it is for 4efe but there you go here is the link MiniMan (Con's comments are about halfway down on the first page :

http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4623&highlight=

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225hp atw on 14psi. 1/4 Mile no idea. Take one 1971 Mini Clubman, one Starlet GT Halfcut, Simmer over a warm MIG Welder, and Voila Minstar! www.mpdesign.id.au

Thanks everyone. So if I can extend the front 50mm or so I should be ok? It will fit under a roundnose bonnet? I was thinking that if I was going to go to the effort of doing the conversion I would use the 4EFTE. Plus I cant find any good G13B's at reasonable prices. But then again I cant find any 4EFTE's. Not sure what to do.

Try JAUSTECH.... they had 4EFTE's for 1200ish last time I looked.

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[NATHAN] -- Sold everything mini related and am back in big beautiful BMWs

I still haven't given up on the 4EFTE fitting in a roundnose. The problem is the turbo. When the motor is positioned correctly the turbo hangs out the front. Solution, get an exhaust manifold made that sits it up out over the gearbox. Sounds easy enough.

Brad could fairly easily check thtis out, one weekend, remove motor and subbi. Take off exhaust mani, fit his subframe to roundnose shell....see how much room is left for you to plumb the headers over to the gearbox.......Not that I'm trying to encourage you.....Brad.

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