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Yea, censorship and legaly binding contractual agreements to enter the site sounds like a great idea all round..........No I'd rather buy a sticker, heck I'd rather buy a few (can go next to my "sarcastic c**t" ones).


That's a bit of an exageration. We all love this site and there are plenty of ways to keep it running. I for one would like to see it continue to expand and attract more members so we can all benefit from the smarts of people like Dr Mini, sc850 etc. I was merely suggesting an alternative, and in my opinion more reliable (and less work in the long run) method to selling stickers and hosting images.

Anybody here that is a a member of Overclockers Australia might see where I'm coming from. They started out very small a few years ago and have gradually grown to have over 45,000 members on their forum. Obviously the scale and potential user-base of a 'technology' website is far greater than the niche for mini enthusiasts, however its a good example of how community oriented websites work.

It's about a bunch of people who just want to have an online meeting place to chat and who shouldn't have to pay for the privilege. All it takes is some community-minded people to want to lend a hand.

The reason I suggested some site sponsorship is because it is an effective way to raise revenue for all parties concerned. On a comparatively small scale site like this, you don't need huge banner ads about 'online match makers' and 'free IQ tests' that make a site look trashy. By implementing a site-specific advertising system, we would be in control of the size and style of ads so its simple to keep them a reasonable size and not be all 'bells and whistles' and animated trash. Everybody wins because the local mini shops and other companies get to advertise straight to their target market, the users can direct their funds to those companies, and they don't have to pay a penny for a great website.

We've obviously got some technically able people who frequent here so it would be simple enough to approach you're local mini workshop and say, "hey, I've we've got a website that is looking for sponsorship. We have people who can design your advertisement and you can have exposure to XXX site visitors per month." I am a member of the Qld mini club and their monthly magazine gets plenty of support from local businesses.

With regard to my comment on a forum user policy, it's something that I strongly feel we should have regardless of whether we sell stickers or recieve sponsorship from related companies. It doesn't have to be some draconian code of conduct that stops people from having an opinion. However some of the comments that are made on the site come pretty close to asking for trouble. In this fine country there are defamation laws and that means the owners of this website are responsible for the material contained within it. Plenty of sites have these issues. I've already mentioned overclockers australia but they have been threatened with, and actually had legal proceedings brought against them in the past due to members posting defamatory vendor verdicts. I don't actually think that this is a major problem at this stage for our AusMini but its something that everybody, especially the webmasters need to be aware of.

Hope you can see where I'm coming from....

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go to http://bss.daihard.org and check the rules.... then get back to me :lol:

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I only read about 1/2 of it but it seems alright.

I have to retract part of my previous post where I said the hosts are responsible... it turns out the user is responsible for their posts. However the site administrators can be called upon to provide information about a person... eg IP address, logon/off details etc.

This is a really good read about what happened at ocau :
http://www.overclockers.com.au/defamation.shtml

As I said its of a far greater magnitude than what this site may have to deal with in the foreseeable future but its good to know whats going on around you...

I vote for drafting a fairly relaxed 'terms of use' that spells out whats acceptable.... plus selling stickers/merch and looking into getting some advertising.

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was going to suggest you were wrong about the host being responsible, but figured someone else could point it out.



lead the way... :wink:

oh, btw.. for all those who want to read it...
http://forums.eis.net.au/viewtopic.php?t=926

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well i think it is better to keep companys out of it if they wanna see what we think of there company's and maybe lift there game by watching what is said all fair and good the way this is run now is great and it is a forum ....... forum a place were ones views can be made ..... forum dose not mean censorship ...... forum is a place for open discussion by bringing in companys we could leave our selves open to hard core censorship if you know what i mean
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btw tzi if i could pay you in hand when i'm in melb next ??
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i'll take 3 or 4 stickers

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Mike wrote:
Yea, censorship and legaly binding contractual agreements to enter the site sounds like a great idea all round..........No I'd rather buy a sticker, heck I'd rather buy a few (can go next to my "sarcastic XXXX" ones).


Maybe we could also have some rules on use of language - there is a wide range of people using this site and maybe some of them don't care for that sort of thing...............no personnnel offence mean't :roll:


Are you finding a C and a T with two asterisks between the offensive? I for one object to you promoting QLD's sometimes unfortunate choice in beer on the forum.


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mike they call it 4 x cos ya cant put crap on a stubbie :)
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A "terms of use" is pretty much useless anyway. By law, no matter what is said in the "terms of use", it's the forums that is liable, not the individual member.

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Like I said on the unmentionable MiniSpares Padstow post, doesnt any post on an informantion forum fall under the freedom of information provisions and hence the forum cant be held liable?

Btw I just realised that the majority of my posts are not actualy helpful to anyone but are just lame sarcasm and in general being a C asterisk asterisk T. So sorry to everyone.


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i'll be sending $20 buck for 3 stickers with a $5 donation on thursday!,

(sorry but this is payday!) lol!

cheers for this awsum site!

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Sorry to ask this coz it's probably already been answered, but what exactly do the stickers look like? If it is white on clear www.ausmini.com sticker then it might look good on my tinted rear window. Got some pics?

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i reckon just the AUSMINI.com ver clear would look sweet on any rear window,
should order them in different colours!!!,

(im talking about the LOGO in the top left orner of teh screen!... AUSMINI.com

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if they look like the one on my windsceen http://ausmini.tziworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=193 then il take a couple :D


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mike they call it 4 x cos ya cant put crap on a stubbie :)
makka


oh he cracks me up
dont we still want that larrikinism?
and the bit about companies complained about lifting their game is an important one...
we do need to share our opinions about a place
there could be an "improvement" rule, not a "pay-the-shit-outta" commenting rule

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ill buy a sticker or too....anything that keeps this site going ill be in on to help out were i can.
mutant minis suggestion about the sausage sizzle is a good idear as well as charging people for the stickers every cruise that is organsed have a sizzle day to raze some $$$$ most people would cough up a dollar or too...i would...
how about having some cruises for the people thatt work weekends?????
i work both sat and sun....but have friday and sat arvo off.....if a cruise was held on a night on these nights i would come along and suport the mini sean more often....but as it stands now most cruises are held on a sat or suday and buy the arvo there all finished up...and poor old me miss out....bugger.....let me now how to buy a sticker...will post ya $5.00 if this will help....


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