those were my straightest bumpers and grille

Yep, that sounds just like a recipe for disaster.

These wheels having been designed for golf carts with a projected speed of 30 kph, and a weight of 200 kilograms are now subjected to accelerative forces and stresses not seen before on golf green.

And now the chinese manufacturer who makes them can make them from melted aluminium cans if he wishes because his wheels are tested to a golf cart bling factor standard and their ability to hold air.

Because the ally seems thick and nice, and it is pretty well polished does not make it a good choice. What do you reckon the chances are that it was crack tested from the chinese factory? Sand intrusions in the casting? Anealed? Normalised?Consistancy in the alloy?



No kidding? No speed restrictions marked on a golf cart wheel? That might be akin to putting a maximum altitude rating on a paper plane. The lack of a speed rating does not imply a Z rating. Kinda like the lack of a tacho red-line implying a 12000 rpm redline.

And after an exhaustive set of south australian improvised ADR's spanning a couple of hours, distances upwards of ten kilometers in length and including speed bursts to 120 kph you're promoting them to other people on the web with your IP in plane view? Does that seem a little crazy?

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All garage work involves equal measures of enthusiasm, ingenuity and a fair degree of irresponsibility.

that was a fair bit to take in..

they should be fine for shows with your trailer queen
but with the way i drive and the conditions of the roads in this state i wouldnt use them on the road

chill mick,

hmm have a dig at me ay, why dont golf buggy wheels have speed restrictions?

your guess as good as mine.

why do some wheelbarrows have speed restrictions and not for highway use written on them,

fair to have your own oppinion.

my experiences with this tyre were great, tehy stuck as good as the yoko a539s it had on teh 12x5s.


and i ahve edited my previous post. teh day i ahd these on my clubby, it was a nice sunny day, on roads i know very well, on teh edge of town.

now have a whinge about me notnowing if somwone had spilt gravel on the road or something unfamiliar on the road.

this is all part of life, u take risks everyday its part of growing up.

if u dont take risks it will be a boring life

and ryan yeah theyll be perfect for my "trailer " queen as its what theyre intended for . taht wont be going to fast.
are u going to hay chief?

cheers jamie

btw mick its just my opinion on this subject, not a dig at u personally u know what i mean ...

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-jamie-
1963morris 850
1965 solid side van
1994 rover racecar

unfortunately no, got a family thing on, not that i care for motorkhanas anyway.. but the adventure and the pissing up with mates are the best.

Probably more for Californian laws. Like the "For off road use only" markings. American liability laws left over from the 70's for products aimed at the american market.

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SooperDooperMiniCooperExpertEngineering

All garage work involves equal measures of enthusiasm, ingenuity and a fair degree of irresponsibility.

exactly, tahts what im looking forward too, turned 18 yesterday

so where have u been, havent heard a whole lot from u?

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-jamie-
1963morris 850
1965 solid side van
1994 rover racecar

wanted a break from ausmini for a few weeks, went on a suzuki swift GTi cruise instead of the dyno day.

back into it now though, been doing heaps of work on my 3 minis and stripping the marina for lots of mini parts..
fixing the paint on the clubby,
got the supercharger on but struggling with the modifications i'll have to make to fit my fuel pump, wiper motor, heater hoses and carby.

waiting for my new shed so i can get really cracking, its hard working under my little carport with the crappy weather of late

Cant be bothered reading thru the whole thread, so i'll just say the first thing that came to mind.

Street tyres require speed ratings by law..... just like rims are required to pass Australian Standards to be legal. Without either of those, your wheels are illegal and will void any kind of insurance you may have.

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nad the rims that are on ur beamer, just by looking at them you can prove to all taht tehy are legal and adr approved?

and the tires, they have speed restrictions written on them?.

no one on here or any where else, can/have prove/proved, taht these tyres and rims are not for on road use or ahve a speed restriction. it is all a matter of different peoples oppinions.


if it is proved on paper or in writing from a reputable source taht these rims/ tyres are illegal, so be it, i will acknowledge taht and not fight this point.

but untill then afawk they are fine

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-jamie-
1963morris 850
1965 solid side van
1994 rover racecar

Fact is you don't have it proved on paper or in writing either that the tires are speed rated and the rims ADR approved. Unless a police officer can site this - then you are on your own.

You also do not have a manufacturer to go to that will back you up - those of us with Superlites have Performance alloys to provide us in writing that they are ADR approved and they have stamped on the rims that they meet ISO9002 Standards.

Just cause it doesn't - doesn't mean that it is

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ahh but it also doesnt mean it doesnt

it amy have taht stamped so mewhere, i jst ahvent looked!!

but some very good points;

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-jamie-
1963morris 850
1965 solid side van
1994 rover racecar

It does in the eye's the the Law and your insurance company

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Starlet Conversion:
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Hmmm. well, lets see here.....


Mine are XHP Invader 18x8 wheels.... Behind one of the spokes it has a JIS stamp which means it has passed Australian Standards (AS1638).

The offset of the wheels is slightly greater than the factory wheels, but the overall track of the car has only been increased by 24mm, and is therefore within legal limits for my particular car.

Tyres are "TOYO TRANPATH SW" 225-40-ZR18 92W.
225= tyre overall width in mm
40= aspect ratio of the wall height as a percentage of the tyre width
ZR= Radial construction
18= rim diameter of 18 inches
92= Max load per tyre is 630kg <-- within legal requirement
W= max speed of 270kmh <-- within legal requirement

Tyre code info, see [url]here:http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/products/car/care/markings.asp[/url]

The rim diameter is 3 inches greater than the factory fitted wheels, but only 2 inches larger than the largest factory wheel stated on the tyre placard, and is therefore within legality.

And the suspension travel has been lowered by 30mm.... which is less than 1/3 of the original travel distance.... also within legality.


Now, referring to Information Bulletin 3, which is the document that outines the legal requirements of Vehicle Modifications in South Australia, under ADR23 and ADR24, it states everything you need to know.

With your mini, as far as the rim goes, if your mini was manufatured before 1/1/1973, the fitted rim can be any size and non-ADR compliant as long as it does not foul on the body or suspension. For vehicles manufactured before 1/1/73, the tyres must have a load carrying capacity, equal to or greater than those supplied as standard equipment by the
vehicle manufacturer.



Tasmania, South Australia, A.C.T., and Western Australia are all the same, more detail here: http://www.dotars.gov.au/roads/safety/bulletin/vsb_ncop.aspx

And when Regency or the Insurance company ask, you will need to prove they are within legality.....

I honestly dont care WHAT you do or what you use...... as long as you know that they will be considered illegal by those 2 places until you can prove them wrong. So... just dont get caught.

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[NATHAN] -- Sold everything mini related and am back in big beautiful BMWs

I dont think the main worry is getting caught by the poo poo....

I think the main and very real worry is one of those tyres/rims (or all of them at the same time) failing at high speed (100kph) due to them being designed and engineered to suit a 80yo man on a golf buggy, doing 30kph over grass.....

I think that would be far worse then getting caught by the poo poo?

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