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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:32 pm 
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Hi All,

Just wondering if any of you know what fuel pump could be used to get the motor started in a Rover Mini front-cut. It's got a single point system.

I was thinking that maybe something common like a Commodore one (maybe cheap at wreckers) might be a good starting point.

Also, I assume that the regulator is fitted close to the motor (in which case I should have it already).


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:53 pm 
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Rover EFI came with a fuel tank with fuel pump already built into it.

Steve has a fair few in stock.
08 8297 9494


Or do you own a van which prohibits its installation?

Either way, give Steve a call and he can point you in the right direction as to what pumps/swirl tanks to use; as we have done a few EFI van installs now.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:03 pm 
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Thanks willy,

I was rather hoping to use the existing (carby tank). So, in other words I'm chasing a suitable in line fuel pump.

I just want to get the motor running whilst it is in the front-cut. If it is OK, my plan is to transplant it into my road Mini.

If/when I get the thing going, I'll think about the actual fuel tank to use.


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Dave


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:22 pm 
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the spi system needs pressure more than 1 bar
the factory pump delivers 2,7 bar at 16 volt and the regulator build in the injector ring brings it down to 1 bar

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:34 pm 
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Thanks Klas,

That will be a great help.

Just need to find a suitable Australian donor car.

Dave


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:14 pm 
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I'd probably go a VL commodore fuel pump (The external one, not the little in-tank lift pump). Easily available and cheap. Will easily flow enough fuel for a 1275 at 2.7 bar and easy to set up with a standard tank (Being an external inline arrangement, not an in tank)

Other things you might want to consider when you get it in the car are return lines,a swirl pot and a EFI filter (Use something like a ryco Z200 after the pump)

Oh, and the fuel pressure regulator is part of the throttle body assembly, so you should have it..

Andrew


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The VL turbo pump will be designed to run against a higher regulator pressure (x3 or thereabouts) so it may have some issues with the lack of restriction it sees as most of it's flow is dumped back to tank. Might overheat/over-rev, but I dunno really.

Best to get a Bosch or Pierburg pump catalogue and find a pump from a similar SPi system.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:24 pm 
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Mokesta wrote:
The VL turbo pump will be designed to run against a higher regulator pressure (x3 or thereabouts) so it may have some issues with the lack of restriction it sees as most of it's flow is dumped back to tank. Might overheat/over-rev, but I dunno really.

Best to get a Bosch or Pierburg pump catalogue and find a pump from a similar SPi system.


should be no problem, rover once replaced the spi (1 bar) pump with the mpi (3 bar) pump
and i use a 3 bar bosch pump in my turbo regulated down to su carb pressure

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:48 pm 
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I wouldn't suggest using the VL turbo pump, it's more expensive and a Non-turbo VL pump will easily flow more than enough fuel for this application. There should be no overheating/over-revving issues with the pump.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:50 am 
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I can guarantee that there is no difference between a VLT and a VL external fuel pump. Both of them flow from 25L/hour to 130L/hour with a continuous operating pressure of 300KPa for memory.

I own a VL as my "workhorse" and have done a few bogan mods to it. I have argued black and blue with other Boongadore owners about the flow rates on these pumps untill a friend of mine contacted Bosch and confirmed it for me.

ALL VL external (high pressure) fuel pumps flow the same. So don't get stung buying a VLT one thinking it's better ;)
Part number from Bosch for a new VL/T pump is 0 580 464 070.

Also a Camira external fuel pump is the same size and shape yet only runs at 250KPa if that helps any..

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