Are they necessary or even effective on a mini?

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No

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Roundies and Clubbies(except vans) are both ugly that is why I have Midas and a van
1293 Mini Midas Bronze,1275 Clubman van

look at the size of the brace across the towers....
i have seen one fitted to the rear of a race mini but it had a feul cell, try putting one in the boot of a road car and see what gets in the way!

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speed costs....how fast do you want to go...

Wow your Mini has struts? OMG OMG OMG

You meaning some kind of brace between the top of the shocker mounts. I'd say you'd be better off putting an ARB on the rear, helps plant the front inside wheel on the ground coming out of corners (traction baby yeah!).

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yea seen a race mini with a brace across the rear shocks...
Traction....at the back? naaaa, id much rather have lift off oversteer! yeeeeehaaa

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speed costs....how fast do you want to go...

i was only asking because i remember seeing it once, i think, noticed that noone was really doing it


btw.. jbeenz.. i think your signature should read... "how fast to you want to spend?"

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When did the words "no one" lose the space between them?

Just remember too , the cars normally fitted with strut braces are the ones with macpherson struts , on a mini it's only the shock absorbers that mount on the inner guards in the boot , not the entire suspension's weight .

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Since when have paragraphs been spaced by 32 carriage returns?
On ausmini, that's where!

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did you count them cush? I counted 33 - you gotta include the first one

I put a brace in the back of my van to stop the wheel arches tearing out of the floor..... our front crossmember IS the strut brace - the rubber cone or hydro unit sits up in the tower of the subframe, and it bolts to the crossmember, which joins the 2 sides

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good point well made..


btw... the paragraphs a spaced by 32..

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oh yeah... sorry, I misread you're right as usual

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mmmmmmm strut braces, give you better "ridgidy", less roll, so you can 'slide' better!

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[quote]mmmmmmm strut braces, give you better "ridgidy", less roll, so you can 'slide' better! [/quote]

Where did you hear that - strut braces are used to stop Mcpherson strut towers flexing in and out under rough roads and corners. V8 commodores should use them to stop the weight of the heavy motor coming together. But they do not stiffen the ride to give better slides.

Sway bars and heavier sway bars do (by use of the bars torsion effect) do limit suspension roll which therefore puts more load on a tyre which does give a slide effect. The sway bars are mounted basically wheel to wheel.

Strut tower braces are mounted tower to tower.

Macphersion struts are a crappy design, their main benefit is they save room and $$ for the maker.
Any setup that puts bending moments on the shocker shaft is dodgy, IMO.
Strut brace helps but doesn't fix this design fault.
Funny how the V8 supercars don't use struts do they...

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.