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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:14 pm 
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I can't believe that in a place as big as SE QLD there is only 2 places to get your car resprayed decently. I have the unfortunate fate of living in NTH QLD (Townsville to be exact) and I had aspriations of using my tax money to go towards respraying my mini, I got Quoted $3500 for the same colour scheme as striped (blue with white stripes) including the engine bay. But my point is there are at least A THOUSAND auto shops up here! My missus ran around and got several quotes, and i know the company i was going to use does a great job cause they painted my VX Commodore before i sold it. Have you thought about the gold coast? how many pimped out racer boy cars are down there? I used to see s**t loads when i lived there. I'm moving to brissy in january, painting my mini and not spending more than $3500 and i know im going to get a good job done, it's all about research!

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I can't believe that in a place as big as SE QLD there is only 2 places to get your car resprayed decently. I have the unfortunate fate of living in NTH QLD (Townsville to be exact) and I had aspriations of using my tax money to go towards respraying my mini, I got Quoted $3500 for the same colour scheme as striped (blue with white stripes) including the engine bay. But my point is there are at least A THOUSAND auto shops up here! My missus ran around and got several quotes, and i know the company i was going to use does a great job cause they painted my VX Commodore before i sold it. Have you thought about the gold coast? how many pimped out racer boy cars are down there? I used to see s**t loads when i lived there. I'm moving to brissy in january, painting my mini and not spending more than $3500 and i know im going to get a good job done, it's all about research!


yeah tru dat...movin to brissie? dude...PM me and i'll give ya me mobile...we should get together and shoot the crap about minis...and whatever else comes to mind...safety in numbers ;)

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 Post subject: why not a vtec then
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:59 pm 
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if u wanna sleeper car that looks standard but can boost off a porche then u should spend the rest of ur money and get a vtec dohc turbo 1600cc installed for well under 25,000 should cost 10,000 if u got connections i would help u if u were in new zealand but o well ur on ur own budy


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considered that...but i want an A-series mini...you can get around the same power out of them anyway...just costs WAY more :P but atleast it stays a mini :)

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you cant get near the power in an a-series

when people are talking big figures out of an a-series its at the flywheel but when brad is talkin about his car it is at the wheels :cry:

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well...take the g13b gti engine...its ONLY 100hp at the fly...stock...a 1275 (stock) is only 25% less powerful...and has a shitty head...replace the head and get a twincam setup (which is REALLY expensive i know) and you'd get 100hp out of the 1275 (stock w/ twincam head) and have ALOT more room in yer engine bay for turbos and other neat little things that'll give you heaps of power...sure the g13b is more reliable...but i still prefer the purity and charm of an a-series...but then thats just me :)

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replace the head..... and have ALOT more room in yer engine bay for turbos and other neat little things


Have you seen an engine bay with a twin cam head fitted? I reckon there would be less than what is left over after the gti is fitted.

If you're goal is power and to stay with an a series why not do what kazjim has done and turbo a 998 motor? Reason being....I went with the SG to try and find a 1275 crank. Was quoted upwards of $1k "if you can find one". I've got a starlet crank lined up to buy for $50 and I sold a gti crank for $50. Cost may not be an issue NOW but it will when you have to replace the same item a few times.

Gearbox issue is another topic, however.

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I was just saying that brad has like 170 at the wheels people please correct if wrong and im pretty sure all he has done is upgraded the turbo and damn sure this will never be acheivable in an a-series :cry:

the other guy is talkin aboaut a v-tech why are you comparing this with a swift?

and for the record i'am an a-series paerson but if the money comes along i will do a clubby 8)

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replace the head..... and have ALOT more room in yer engine bay for turbos and other neat little things


Have you seen an engine bay with a twin cam head fitted? I reckon there would be less than what is left over after the gti is fitted.

If you're goal is power and to stay with an a series why not do what kazjim has done and turbo a 998 motor? Reason being....I went with the SG to try and find a 1275 crank. Was quoted upwards of $1k "if you can find one". I've got a starlet crank lined up to buy for $50 and I sold a gti crank for $50. Cost may not be an issue NOW but it will when you have to replace the same item a few times.

Gearbox issue is another topic, however.


yeah...granted it was a clubman with the twincam setup...which does have more room under the hood anyway...

i will consider a turbo 998...i've got a 998 now...would need reconditioning i would say...but i was under the impression that a turbo 998 was about as good as a warm 1275 (NA)...i could be wrong though...

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I was just saying that brad has like 170 at the wheels people please correct if wrong and im pretty sure all he has done is upgraded the turbo and damn sure this will never be acheivable in an a-series :cry:

the other guy is talkin aboaut a v-tech why are you comparing this with a swift?

and for the record i'am an a-series paerson but if the money comes along i will do a clubby 8)


brad is...13secmini? with the starlet gt conversion? 170hp at the wheels would be mighty impressive...especially given that stock the gt engine outputs about 100hp at the wheels...i would also have thought that you'd get better than 13.9secs out of a mini with 170hp at the wheels...assuming you could keep traction...

vtec is not an option for me...all of the vtec conversions i've seen totally butcher the front-end...and thats definitely not where i wanna go with this mini...

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Don't forget low n'blown's 204 BHP at the fly, with his supercharged A-series setup. I think it cost him over $11k to build that setup.

And I think it demonstrates the upper limit of the A-series, needing the block to be braced to produce that sort of power. And it remains to be seen if he can keep gearboxes under the thing.

But Brad's 170HP at the wheels pales in comparison to Baracade's monster. Certainly no where near the limits of the more modern Jap engines. What was Baracades motor dynoed at again? 350 HP at the wheels?

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lol...i want something i can drive :P 450hp is just insane :P

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Yep, i've been in Brad's back when it was making 150HP (?). Very fun. I wouldn't want much more.

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Yep, i've been in Brad's back when it was making 150HP (?). Very fun. I wouldn't want much more.


yeah...thats the thing though...i'll be pretty happy with ~120hp @ wheels...which isnt incredibly difficult to get out of an a-series with a few mods and a supercharger...

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Now Now Now,,,lets not all start bitchin about how much power can be achieved from "Whatever" engine, pointless waste of time.

the fact is that Jap donks "CAN" be made to give big numbers (honda turbo =well over 500 avaliable hp) --->but totally undrivable for road use,,,a """roady""" tuned jap donk, of just about any sort, would be very nice & sweet, but as Andrew suggests, it`s not the way he wants his mini.

The A series is a little sufficated , yes,,,but to make 120hp at the wheels with an A series is also "USUALLY" not a road usable engine "UNLESS" a very well set up supercharge/turbocharger assy is designed/produced

120hp at the wheels in a mini makes for a VERY F`ken fast brick & i can tell you that they are pretty hard to hold traction , BIG dollars will be needed to be thrown at it & huge amounts of time to make it all work well together as a package.

Think about 120hp at the wheels & you have (approx) 150hp at the engine,,,dream on!!!!!,,,only the very full on race power mini addicts have that sort of grunt & i don`t know anyone with that sort of thing on the road at the moment (using an A series) & very few race minis have that sort of grunt either,,,very few!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do know of a few with 100hp at the wheels,,,not hard to do,,, but still costs big bucks HUGE dollars & also full engine strip downs & re-builds are needed every 200 race miles or 5000 road miles,,,,simply not worth it for a road car.

be realistic if you want a road mini...100hp at the wheels with a supercharger/turbocharger is realistic,,,smooth, drivable, & quite road use-able,,,but,,,if you use all that power, all of the time, then be ready to have to strip it down every so often to keep it all sweet, crisp & honest. (just like a race donk)

100hp + (at the wheels) A series naturally aspirated is a "RACE" motor needing race fuel & race S/C C/R gearbox to keep it on cam,,,totally usless for the road.

dam good fun on the track tho

I know i`m very biased,,,But,,,the best """COMPROMISE""" is a twin cam A series with turbo/super charger & engine management system (& no subframe/body mods)

ok,,,may not produce the grunt like a 500hp turbo honda,,,may not even last as well,,,but i believe it`s the best value for money,,,bang for buck,,, piece of "ROAD DRIVABLE" reliable, smooth, quiet, stealth, powerfull, kit avaliable for an A series


& no,,,mines still not a runner yet :-( forgive me,,,i am a very poor man with a broken foot :-(

Andrew,,,be more realistic,,,120hp AT THE WHEELS is gonna break crap & cost chunks,,,back it off a tad & be happy with that,,,other wise you will want to build """2 Minis"""

one roady .........& .............one full house race weapon

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now that`s what i call common sense

I know i`ve said the word "Compromise" & used it in relation to my twin cam bimmer turbo injected donk,,, i really do hate that word....BUT!!!!!!! Compromise is what is needed if you want a """"""""""""Fast -Reliable- Road- mini"""""""""""""


That`s where jap motor conversions come into the picture, they`re a dam good compromise,,,,BUT!!! They just aren`t a Mini then hey??? (says he with a turbo alloy V8 mini)

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