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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:21 pm 
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Hello everyone,
Sorry if this is a repeat, but I am new to the forum and have not been able to see answers that are more relevant for my project.

I have bought a 1968 mini to restore, and it is currently a shell and a garage full of parts. Before I start spending (more) money on it, I wanted to know what hoops I am likely to have to jump through for registration in NSW. Ideally, I want to be able to have it as a daily driver.

The car only has a receipt for sale to me. No other official paperwork for registration. It does have the plate that matches the car number.

Any advice, info, suggestions on place to look, people to talk to would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance! :!: :!:


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:42 pm 
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A 1968 Deluxe should be registered using the 5 digit chassis number stamped into the firewall just below the ID plate. You dont actually need the ID plate for rego. Just do a REVS check using the chassis number. Some cars have incorrectly been registered using the body number on the radiator shroud but that number was only used on the production line and should be painted over. Some cars have also been registered using the YMA2S2 prefix and chassis number combined but that is incorrect.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:49 pm 
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it'll be fine - people register cars that have been off the road for years and years all the time. Occasionally we hear of people having issues but it's only ever when they're going to an RTA/Vicroads/whatever office in Sydney/Melbourne and the numpty behind the desk doesn't understand that there are such things as old cars. You'll be going to Newcastle, Maitland, Singleton etc. and they'll know what to do..

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:23 pm 
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gtogreen1969 wrote:
A 1968 Deluxe should be registered using the 5 digit chassis number stamped into the firewall just below the ID plate. You dont actually need the ID plate for rego. Just do a REVS check using the chassis number. Some cars have incorrectly been registered using the body number on the radiator shroud but that number was only used on the production line and should be painted over. Some cars have also been registered using the YMA2S2 prefix and chassis number combined but that is incorrect.


Two of my cars have been registered with the car's prefix plus the chassis number. There's a story for each one, but those are not material. I am happy to have mine identified the way they are. I don't see why it is said that is incorrect.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:04 pm 
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DavidE wrote:
gtogreen1969 wrote:
A 1968 Deluxe should be registered using the 5 digit chassis number stamped into the firewall just below the ID plate. You dont actually need the ID plate for rego. Just do a REVS check using the chassis number. Some cars have incorrectly been registered using the body number on the radiator shroud but that number was only used on the production line and should be painted over. Some cars have also been registered using the YMA2S2 prefix and chassis number combined but that is incorrect.


Two of my cars have been registered with the car's prefix plus the chassis number. There's a story for each one, but those are not material. I am happy to have mine identified the way they are. I don't see why it is said that is incorrect.



The prefix wasn't stamped into the chassis until the Mk2 series. In Australia a vehicles identification must be stamped into the chassis. If your cars registered with a chassis number made up of a car prefix and car number then it is either a Mk2 or later, incorrectly transcribed from the ID plate info or had the prefix restamped next to the chassis number.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:17 pm 
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gtogreen1969 wrote:
A 1968 Deluxe should be registered using the 5 digit chassis number stamped into the firewall just below the ID plate. You dont actually need the ID plate for rego. Just do a REVS check using the chassis number. Some cars have incorrectly been registered using the body number on the radiator shroud but that number was only used on the production line and should be painted over. Some cars have also been registered using the YMA2S2 prefix and chassis number combined but that is incorrect.


simon k wrote:
it'll be fine - people register cars that have been off the road for years and years all the time. Occasionally we hear of people having issues but it's only ever when they're going to an RTA/Vicroads/whatever office in Sydney/Melbourne and the numpty behind the desk doesn't understand that there are such things as old cars. You'll be going to Newcastle, Maitland, Singleton etc. and they'll know what to do..


Thanks!


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:07 pm 
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gtogreen1969 wrote:
DavidE wrote:
gtogreen1969 wrote:
A 1968 Deluxe should be registered using the 5 digit chassis number stamped into the firewall just below the ID plate. You dont actually need the ID plate for rego. Just do a REVS check using the chassis number. Some cars have incorrectly been registered using the body number on the radiator shroud but that number was only used on the production line and should be painted over. Some cars have also been registered using the YMA2S2 prefix and chassis number combined but that is incorrect.


Two of my cars have been registered with the car's prefix plus the chassis number. There's a story for each one, but those are not material. I am happy to have mine identified the way they are. I don't see why it is said that is incorrect.



The prefix wasn't stamped into the chassis until the Mk2 series. In Australia a vehicles identification must be stamped into the chassis. If your cars registered with a chassis number made up of a car prefix and car number then it is either a Mk2 or later, incorrectly transcribed from the ID plate info or had the prefix restamped next to the chassis number.


Actually, it was none of your scenarios. For one, to get the chassis number correctly applied to the registration record (to replace incorrect details) it was found that "my" number was already in use by another vehicle, and the only way to get the correct numerals into the system was to add the prefix to create a unique record. For the other, the authorities were happy to use the prefix and chassis number when it arrived from interstate (after being on what I regard as a dodgy scheme).


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:51 am 
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Have just done this in NSW. Mine is a 66 deluxe and it hadn't been registered for 33years, and i had transferred it from Perth so never even registered in NSW.

Other than the blue slip, chassis/engine numbers etc, what i did need was clear proof of ownership and purchase price. This nearly caused an issue as my dad purchased it and i "took it over". I wrote up a transfer of ownership and had him sign it 30years later, and he wrote out a receipt of purchase, which nearly undid me as he copied down the engine number incorrectly and it didn't match any of the blue slip paperwork...sigh,

Anyway in the end getting it registered was the easy bit, now enjoying being able to drive it. (trying to dodge rain and pot holes that is)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:19 pm 
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MiniDeluxe68 wrote:
Hello everyone,
Sorry if this is a repeat, but I am new to the forum and have not been able to see answers that are more relevant for my project.

I have bought a 1968 mini to restore, and it is currently a shell and a garage full of parts. Before I start spending (more) money on it, I wanted to know what hoops I am likely to have to jump through for registration in NSW. Ideally, I want to be able to have it as a daily driver.

The car only has a receipt for sale to me. No other official paperwork for registration. It does have the plate that matches the car number.

Any advice, info, suggestions on place to look, people to talk to would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance! :!: :!:


In my experience the NSW Rego people don't really care about identity.

They will want you to show them a "Blue Slip" - a document you get from a registered Blue slip provider (a local garage that is registered with NSW Roads and Maritime to provide Blue slips) and some sort of receipt that shows how much you paid - so they can slug you for stamp duty.

This can be an issue because if you paid (almost:) nothing for the car because someone just wanted the wreck out of their yard (BTDT) they may assign you a "nominal" value (which may not be that nominal:(.. I have been involved in such "discussions" in the past but I've never been asked to actually present the car for valuation. If you paid almost nothing I would be inclined to have some form of written valuation (maybe from the local car club?) in my back pocket just in case. Or just choose a "reasonable" figure... You definitely don't want to tell them "..its insured for X..". Stamp duty is 2% of X.

The issue of ID is also somewhat fluid...The Blue slip provider will want you to show them an ID number ..and it will have to be permanently attached to the car. I have English Minis and the official identity number is on a plate screwed to the body - and that is deemed unacceptable. However, there is also a Body number and an "FE" number (used during assembly). Both of these have proved to be "acceptable" to the authorities.

Cheers, Ian


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