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Author:  minster [ Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Conversion
I have been investigating the different alternatives for an engine conversion for my mini. Can anyone tell me how much bigger the engine bay on a clubman compared to a roundnose is?
Author:  TheMiniMan [ Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:14 pm ]
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a little bit


















Ok,,,just kidding...it`s actually 4 inches longer, but the same side to side

My turbo charged 4.7litre Alloy V8 fits in a clubman,,,but not in a roundy :-)
Author:  minster [ Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:19 pm ]
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What about height?
Author:  minster [ Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:47 pm ]
Post subject:  conversion
What would I have to extend to get a 4EFTE into my round nose mini? Just extend the nose or would the bonnent be too low as well? I have read that the gearbox on a 4EFTE is the problem as far as size goes is there a smaller toyota gearbox that would fit?
Author:  supercharged 850 [ Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:48 am ]
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Forget the 4EFTE.....

Use a Suzuki GTi twin cam and 5 speed.... it will fit in a round nose. You can turbo it later if required
Author:  sg [ Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: conversion
minster wrote:
What would I have to extend to get a 4EFTE into my round nose mini? Just extend the nose or would the bonnent be too low as well? I have read that the gearbox on a 4EFTE is the problem as far as size goes is there a smaller toyota gearbox that would fit?


As a guide, when they have fitted the Vtec into roundies in the UK, they extend the front by around 50mm......... so if you used that as a rule of thumb i think you would be right.
Author:  drmini in aust [ Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: conversion
sg wrote:
minster wrote:
What would I have to extend to get a 4EFTE into my round nose mini? Just extend the nose or would the bonnent be too low as well? I have read that the gearbox on a 4EFTE is the problem as far as size goes is there a smaller toyota gearbox that would fit?


As a guide, when they have fitted the Vtec into roundies in the UK, they extend the front by around 50mm......... so if you used that as a rule of thumb i think you would be right.

It's not just the nose they extend, it's the wheelbase.. :shock:
Problem with the VTEC is, the gearbox fouls the RHD rack. If you can work out how to move the rack (and floor) back 40mm it'll fit a roundnose.
Or go LHD.... yeah, right! :lol:

4EFTE into a roundnose... extending the front guards a bit would do it. Different problem to VTEC, just needs more room at the front. :wink:
Author:  998_Clubman [ Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:35 am ]
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the G13B gti engine looks a lot smaller than the 4efte motor, ill post a new thread in the gallery this afternoon or tonight after work, its neally finished :)

theres a heap of roundies with gti motors in them, and they dont seem to have any troubles fitting them, but a turbo is sometimes out of the question..

good luck if your going to put a 4efte in a roundie but :P
Author:  minstar [ Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:44 pm ]
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Con Torresi, has the measurements on a thread on here somwhere as I asked him the same question about the size difference between the 4efte and the Suzuki G13B. There actually alot in it. Just differences in certain directions. But everyone's right it is much easier to get a G13B into a roundnose.
Author:  miniVan [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:26 am ]
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i cannot find this topic you speak of matt
:cry:
Author:  drmini in aust [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:32 am ]
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miniVan wrote:
i cannot find this topic you speak of matt
:cry:

look here-
http://www.miniman.com.au/black.htm
Author:  minstar [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:40 am ]
Post subject:  Here's the topic
I forgot that it is for 4efe but there you go here is the link MiniMan (Con's comments are about halfway down on the first page :wink: :

http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4623&highlight=
Author:  minster [ Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:16 pm ]
Post subject:  conversion
Thanks everyone. So if I can extend the front 50mm or so I should be ok? It will fit under a roundnose bonnet? I was thinking that if I was going to go to the effort of doing the conversion I would use the 4EFTE. Plus I cant find any good G13B's at reasonable prices. But then again I cant find any 4EFTE's. Not sure what to do.
Author:  supercharged 850 [ Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:27 am ]
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Try JAUSTECH.... they had 4EFTE's for 1200ish last time I looked.
Author:  JC [ Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:17 am ]
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I still haven't given up on the 4EFTE fitting in a roundnose. The problem is the turbo. When the motor is positioned correctly the turbo hangs out the front. Solution, get an exhaust manifold made that sits it up out over the gearbox. Sounds easy enough.

Brad could fairly easily check thtis out, one weekend, remove motor and subbi. Take off exhaust mani, fit his subframe to roundnose shell....see how much room is left for you to plumb the headers over to the gearbox.......Not that I'm trying to encourage you.....Brad. :)
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