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Author:  supercharged 850 [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:06 am ]
Post subject:  Wolf3D, or maybe a MoTeC
Yep, i'm having stupid thoughts again.

Was looking at my electronic dizzy and thought to myself...... geez, not much room between that and the grille.

Was thinking also..... how can I get this supercharger setup to be fuel efficient?

Thats when I thought...... programmable ignition.
-No dizzy (gives me more room for the oil cooler)
-multiple programmable advance curves. Power, economy, etc
-coil pack, 4 igniters (blow the spark plugs to bits..... mmmmm cool)

With selectable advance curves, I would be able to keep the clutch on the supercharger, which would then allow me to have: vacuum activated boost OR switch activated boost OR full time boost OR no boost at all........

Running without boost means less fuel required. My last car doubled it fuel efficiency with the boost switched off, and it was still driveable. Slow, but driveable.

Hmmm... expensive??? You bet....... Its got massive wank appeal. I like it.

Any thoughts?

Anyone selling a Wolf3D or MoTeC???? :wink:

Oh..... and i might mention, these computers control fuel injection too. :roll: :twisted:
Author:  sg [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:37 am ]
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SC................ Microtech MTX-8 or the MTX-12 would be my preference......... a few mates have run them in the past and can't fault them......

But......... MOtec...... mmmmmm luverley 8)
Author:  drmini in aust [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:47 am ]
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Ask Ozmotorsport what he thinks of MOTec- he had it on the Westfield Clubman (Sierra Cosworth powered..) :x
Author:  minstar [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:48 am ]
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MOTEC very expensivo which is why they are so nice.
Author:  bnicho [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:24 pm ]
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If you are handy with a soldering iron or know someone who is, why not make your own computer?

http://www.diy-efi.org/
Author:  mickmini [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:31 pm ]
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My bro runs an Autronic. We have heard that the original Motec engineer decided he di not like the way motec were doing things, so left to start up Autronic. Don't know how true it is, but the Autronic computer is really good.
Author:  Baracade [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:26 pm ]
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okies I have been reading all up in regards to EMS's at the moment...

Hell yeah Motec is the ants pants but why would you nuke a mouse hole?

Haltech will do everything you need for less then half Motec costs.

Micro tech half again...

its all just wank factor unless you are running some serious power output.
Author:  rampage101 [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:22 pm ]
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MegaSquirt - http://www.msefi.com
Author:  kazjim [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:52 pm ]
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Personally, I've been looking long and hard at the Wolf 3D ....

Cooper "S" Manifold, 2 x 1.5" throttle-bodies, 2 Trumpets in a sealed box, 2 injetors just behind the trumpets (wet manifold injection), MAP sensor, Hyundai Coil pack ingition (probably waste-spark) and some nice closed-loop o2 cruise-condition running.....

Mmmmmm power AND flexibility....

Not many $$$ either, a few Wolf version 3's hitting the market now that the plug-in version 4 is out.....

Later
J
Author:  poeee [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:16 pm ]
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kazjim wrote:
Personally, I've been looking long and hard at the Wolf 3D ....

Cooper "S" Manifold, 2 x 1.5" throttle-bodies, 2 Trumpets in a sealed box, 2 injetors just behind the trumpets (wet manifold injection), MAP sensor, Hyundai Coil pack ingition (probably waste-spark) and some nice closed-loop o2 cruise-condition running.....

Mmmmmm power AND flexibility....

Not many $$$ either, a few Wolf version 3's hitting the market now that the plug-in version 4 is out.....

Later
J


OMG so don't get me onto this idea!
Author:  Chris [ Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:19 am ]
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Megasquirt. Cheap, customisible, plenty of them have been done. You just have to be handy with a soldering iron and take the trouble to learn.
Author:  supercharged 850 [ Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:45 am ]
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Ah, but see.... my preference is for programmable IGNITION for the supercharger. Fuel injection is not really important at this stage.

I have not yet looked into Microtech computers.... but I was aware of all the Wolf3D's that are now becoming old technology, and therefore affordable. :wink:

Lets just say I am getting some serious thoughts happening now.

Great, just what I need, MORE toys..... :roll:
Author:  JC [ Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:47 am ]
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SC850, I have a LINK for the Gti conversion, been doing alot of reading about it. I have a user manual for it if you want a read. Just PM your email. Also got the PC tunning equipment and a few base programmes.

I've not heard good things (not bad things) about the microtech. Something to do with the limited number of cycles or something like that. Thing is with any computer you want flexibility, you would hate to buy one then develop beyond the computers potential.

Ask Matty Read about the Wolf 3d, I think he is running it in his Targa Car. Something about adjustable settings. One mode for normal driving and one for going stupid. But i imagine most A/M ECU's would be capable of this.

JC
Author:  kazjim [ Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:53 am ]
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The Wolf3Ds have a great "plug in" module system from memory...so you can have as many tunings as you want !

J
Author:  min13k [ Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:35 am ]
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i have not pyhsical experiance with these things but from what i have read they had alot of hassles with the fueling on the a series due to the siamesd inlet ports and getting the computor to fire the fuel and spark at the right time you would ne a higly adjusterble computor talk to the manufacturers my mate works ? used to work for microtech russle is his name talk to him or his boss the are or were at ryde
makka
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