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| Author: | Maxi23 [ Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:17 pm ] |
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Im getting my engine rebuilt within the next two weeks. I am wondering if it is possible for a mini odometer to b wound back ? and if so, is it still illegal even though its being done because of a rebuild ? Even if it is illegal....anyone tell me how to wind it back ? |
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| Author: | 13secmini [ Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:08 pm ] |
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yes it is illegal even if its rebuilt, just becuase the engine is new dosnt mean the rest of the car is so must show original kms... now thats been said you can wind it back  but i think its easier to pull the speedo all apart and place the numbers back to what you want, ive never done it but have heard it being done 
You could just get your engine rebuilder to put the kms on the recipet of rebuild so the next owner knows how many kms since last rebuild. |
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| Author: | Maxi23 [ Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:11 pm ] |
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well atm my speedo doesnt work....so...my odometer hsant worked for aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages. although im very sure it was just the cable, which i am replacing once i get my car back im thinking id like to get a new speedo...but damn they are pricey. |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:19 pm ] |
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Don't bother trying to wind it back with a drill, doesn't work on Mini ones.. 
The odometer is driven by a ratchet & pawl mechanism, so even if you spin the cable backwards it will still ratchet the counter forwards. I guess you could keep going forwards to 99999.9, 00000.0! 
BTW when my Mk1 S speedo was overhauled by Olympic Instruments years ago, it came back reading 00000.0 
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| Author: | supercharged 850 [ Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:04 am ] |
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Thats right, it is illegal to wind the odometer back. Nothing to say you can't wind it forwards though
When I bought my speedo, it was really dirty, so I disassembled it, cleaned it all, and reassembled it with 00000.0km on the odometer. The speedo in SC850 now reads 1.6km - thats the total distance the car has been pushed in and out of the garage.. Its very easy to do, but it is illegal for me to say how... so I wont say. There is a loophole in the laws - if your speedo is faulty it MUST be replaced. The new speedo will have a much different reading. A friends Holden Calais had 250,000km on the clock when he bought it. It had 105,000km on the clock when he sold it - the original speedo died
My Mazda's speedo died and needed replacing last year too..
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| Author: | Lillee [ Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:37 am ] |
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Question. My odo doesn't work at all. The last reading when I registered the mini last year was 79746. The reading that it will read this year when I take it to get registered will be 79746. Will i get arrested? 
How do I make it work again? |
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| Author: | 13secmini [ Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:24 am ] |
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hehe no you will not get in any trouble,, the guys that pass it for rego may. If they see it is not working they will not pass it for rego most the time, some dont worrie about it as its 'just a mini'. You can always say that it hasnt moved from your garage all year
Why is it not working?? cable pronlems? |
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| Author: | Lillee [ Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:43 am ] |
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I dunno! I have no idea how the odometer works! The speedo works but the odometer doesn't. Is there something stupic like a bolt missing or something? 
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| Author: | Marvin [ Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:12 pm ] |
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supercharged 850 wrote: The speedo in SC850 now reads 1.6km - thats the total distance the car has been pushed in and out of the garage..
Does the odo click over in reverse? If not you've done twice that distance SC! |
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| Author: | Spaceboy [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:56 am ] |
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i just put a new cable on, and it still doesnt spin when im driving forward also the speedo doesnt work, as the cable doesnt turn at all few questions: a) does it still click over if not in gear? b) how does it work c) how do i fix it? |
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| Author: | supercharged 850 [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:05 am ] |
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Marvin..... yeah I know. Spaceboy wrote: i just put a new cable on, and it still doesnt spin when im driving forward
also the speedo doesnt work, as the cable doesnt turn at all few questions: a) does it still click over if not in gear? b) how does it work c) how do i fix it? a+b) it is driven by the diff end of the gearbox. When the wheels turn, so does the cable, regardless of what gear you are in. It spins much slower than your wheels do. c) Make sure the end of your old cable still has the end on it.... it could have snapped off inside the hole in the gearbox!! (it has happened to me) Take both your cables and compare the ends of the inner shaft. They should be identical. If the end is missing on your old one...... good luck getting it out of the drive hole!!! Not an easy job with the engine still in the car. |
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| Author: | Lillee [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:24 am ] |
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What about if your speedo works but your odometer doesn't?? obviously the cable turns then right? |
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| Author: | Marvin [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:24 am ] |
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68Delux wrote: What about if your speedo works but your odometer doesn't?? obviously the cable turns then right?
Yep... they are connected, if your speedo works your odo should aswell. Whenever I take my dash off it always pops out a little so I have to open/flip the bonnet and push the cable in a little from outside. |
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| Author: | Spaceboy [ Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:46 pm ] |
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supercharged 850 wrote: Marvin..... yeah I know.
Spaceboy wrote: i just put a new cable on, and it still doesnt spin when im driving forward also the speedo doesnt work, as the cable doesnt turn at all few questions: a) does it still click over if not in gear? b) how does it work c) how do i fix it? a+b) it is driven by the diff end of the gearbox. When the wheels turn, so does the cable, regardless of what gear you are in. It spins much slower than your wheels do. c) Make sure the end of your old cable still has the end on it.... it could have snapped off inside the hole in the gearbox!! (it has happened to me) Take both your cables and compare the ends of the inner shaft. They should be identical. If the end is missing on your old one...... good luck getting it out of the drive hole!!! Not an easy job with the engine still in the car. good to know that its driven even with out the car in gear.. but it makes total sense.. say if you're rolling down a hill in neutral you would want to see the speed.... something being lodged inside the drive didnt occur to me, i am miffed that i didnt check it before i dropped the lump in i'll have to remove the radiator to get to it... |
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| Author: | supercharged 850 [ Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:16 am ] |
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Yeah, its a tricky angle. You'll need double jointed fingers. Would be very easy to get to with the radiator out, but pulling a bit out of that hole will still be tricky. You will want to use a very fine hook. If you've got car ramps, it COULD be easier to drive it up on them before trying to get to it.... from underneath. Make sure the engine is cool before doing this though. The driveshafts might be in the way though. Pulling a broken bit out of the drive hole is one of the hardest things to do with the engine in. Removing the speedo drive gear assembly would help. It is removable by undoing the (7/16"??) bolt that is directly under the cable drive hole. This will allow you to remove the retaining plate, then pull out the drive gear and pinion. The drive hole is in the end of that pinion. Your engine will lose oil when you remove this bit. I only reccommend doing this if you plan on doing an oil change at the same time. |
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