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thats not a turbo its called a centrifugal super charger. basically like you said a pully driven turbo... They are the big thing at the moment as they fit under the bonnet and you dont need to cut holes in the bonnet... Check out CAPA SUPERCHARGES

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the one i saw (miniworld, it think) whas actually modified turbo compressor... but meh.. it's all the same

oh and if you are going down the capa route, i know someone that may be able to get you a good deal on what you get..

Thanks for the help guys. Does anyone know what type of blower that is on Pete's moke?
It looks to me like a Aisin AMR300 or AMR500 no sure though also how much boost is he running?.
That is the kind of setup that i wanna do but with a dellorto and plenum instead of the SU.

I read up on the two Aisin Superchargers one puts out 300cc per revolution and the other puts out 500cc.
So i think the AMR500 would suit my 1100 better. The site reakons that the AMR500 is good for 110kw max
which is more then enough for my fairly stocky 1100 i would think.

Author:	clubman77 [ Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:56 pm ]
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Hey Guys, I'm looking for some pics of front mounted superchargers (above alternator not above exhaust manifold). I am considering doing a blow through type setup on my clubman 1100. I am planning to make a plenum like the one Jukka Harkola made for his dellorto blow through turbo setup. However I'm gonna use my Dellorto 40 DHLA and a supercharger. Before anyone says i should do a draw through using an SU or HIF because they are easier. My response is i wanna do something different . I know blow through setups have there issues but i dont expect this to be a straight bolt on and drive job. Currently i know i need: - to seal the carby to handle the boost i also have to pressurise the float camber and any atmospheric vent with the boost pressure. - i need a boost controlled fuel regulator - a fuel pump which can supply fuel at a higher pressure then the total boost (eg. 4psi + maximum boost) - a fuel return from the regulator to tank. - supercharger nothing bigger than a SC12. Maybe even something smaller would be better. - custom mounts and pulley setup for the blower. - custom plenum for the dellorto with a volume of atleast 1.1 litres. - rejet the carby to handle the boost (probably the hardest thing to do ) Any help and adivce will be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Isaac P.S dont try and change my mind i want a supercharged blow through dellorto setup it can be done.

Author:	cush [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:12 am ]
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i've seen people rig up turbocharger compressors to act as a supercharger... taking the exhaust housing off and chain or belt driving it from the crank (or flywheel in the example i saw)

Author:	Mini Mike [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:55 pm ]
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thats not a turbo its called a centrifugal super charger. basically like you said a pully driven turbo... They are the big thing at the moment as they fit under the bonnet and you dont need to cut holes in the bonnet... Check out CAPA SUPERCHARGES

Author:	buztoy [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:36 pm ]
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on ebay there is something that is called a vortex superchager, had a look at the pic and includes a turbo,

Author:	KLAS [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:46 pm ]
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not a mini but may give some ideas http://kmnet.demon.co.uk/~arnold/

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Author:	awdmoke [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:02 pm ]
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Pete's moke has an interesting supercharger setup More details here: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~sdmcwa/photos/peterc/peterc.htm Hope that helps

Author:	cush [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:03 pm ]
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Mini Mike wrote: thats not a turbo its called a centrifugal super charger. basically like you said a pully driven turbo... They are the big thing at the moment as they fit under the bonnet and you dont need to cut holes in the bonnet... Check out CAPA SUPERCHARGES the one i saw (miniworld, it think) whas actually modified turbo compressor... but meh.. it's all the same oh and if you are going down the capa route, i know someone that may be able to get you a good deal on what you get..

Author:	slinkey inc [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:35 pm ]
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cush wrote: Mini Mike wrote: thats not a turbo its called a centrifugal super charger. basically like you said a pully driven turbo... They are the big thing at the moment as they fit under the bonnet and you dont need to cut holes in the bonnet... Check out CAPA SUPERCHARGES the one i saw (miniworld, it think) whas actually modified turbo compressor... but meh.. it's all the same oh and if you are going down the capa route, i know someone that may be able to get you a good deal on what you get.. I saw that too. AWESOME!! It also said dyno results coming soon...I never saw them Anyone have any info or links to anymore info?

Author:	Mini Mike [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:51 pm ]
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Vortech centrifugal is the same thing just different name different company same thing but..

Author:	gzeVan [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:14 pm ]
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here petes in its old home

Author:	clubman77 [ Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:35 pm ]
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Thanks for the help guys. Does anyone know what type of blower that is on Pete's moke? It looks to me like a Aisin AMR300 or AMR500 no sure though also how much boost is he running?. That is the kind of setup that i wanna do but with a dellorto and plenum instead of the SU. I read up on the two Aisin Superchargers one puts out 300cc per revolution and the other puts out 500cc. So i think the AMR500 would suit my 1100 better. The site reakons that the AMR500 is good for 110kw max which is more then enough for my fairly stocky 1100 i would think.

Author:	PetenSoaf [ Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:05 pm ]
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clubman77 wrote: Thanks for the help guys. Does anyone know what type of blower that is on Pete's moke? It looks to me like a Aisin AMR300 or AMR500 no sure though also how much boost is he running?. That is the kind of setup that i wanna do but with a dellorto and plenum instead of the SU. I read up on the two Aisin Superchargers one puts out 300cc per revolution and the other puts out 500cc. So i think the AMR500 would suit my 1100 better. The site reakons that the AMR500 is good for 110kw max which is more then enough for my fairly stocky 1100 i would think. The supercharger on my Moke is an Aisin AMR300 and is still in basically the same configuration it was on gzeVan's Clubby van. I've changed a couple of bits around to sort out a couple of problems but all the basic components are still there. The motor underneath is a very stock 998 (read: weeny little valves and not much compression). With a more-or-less 1:1 drive ratio, there is about 4psi positive pressure at the inlet manifold at around 5000rpm. Working at these sorts of levels, I'd still think there is plenty of scope in the AMR300 - the outlet temps have never gone above 40 degrees (before the intercooler). One day when I get enthusiastic, I'll up the pace a bit with a smaller pully but as it stands, it's really not a bad setup. Be prepared for horrendous fuel use though. . .16mpg is not uncommon - with no black smoke out the back or fuel leaks anywhere. . .

Author:	clubman77 [ Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:32 pm ]
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Thanks for the info Pete. I think i might try and get hold of an AMR500. Might suit the 1100 better i think the 300 would be a bit to small (have to spin it to fast for boost). I dont think an SC12 will fit in front of the engine unless i move the altenator to much work unless someone has done it before and has some pics. Pete do you have any pics of the mounts used to hold the blower to the block? Also can you notice the power increase at only 4psi? Cheers, Isaac

Author:	PetenSoaf [ Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:27 pm ]
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You can sort of see the mount arrangement in the Moke photo that awdmoke posted. It's basically an braced L-shaped piece of metal that fixes to the alternator mount points on the block (the original alternator mount bracket is stll behind it). The bottom mounts of the supercharger fix to it, allowing the top of the supercharger to swing for belt tensioning (like an alternator). Does away with the need for a separate tensioner. Just use an original late model Clubman twin-belt waterpump pully and away you go. . . Bit hard to get pics with it fitted to the car. . .here's a couple of fairly dodgy attempts: The engine to bracket bolts are circled in pink and the bracket to supercharger bolts are circled in green. . . This one was taken sort of across the top of the bracket - you can see the pivot bolts at the bottom of the supercharger. . . There is a definite increase in power and more importantly torque at low revs. . .I would say the stocko 998 with supercharger would accelerate as well as a standard 1275. It tends to run out of puff at high revs but that's probably got more to do with the 1 inch exhaust and tiny valves on the 998 rather than the limitations of the blower. That being said, I'm sure the AMR500 would be an improvement. . . I'll try to get some better shots of the mounting bracket for you next time I have the front of the car off. . .

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Author:	clubman77 [ Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:53 pm ]
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Thanks again Pete. Cheers, Isaac