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Author:  Gadgets mini [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Gemini Stater motor a top Mod
fitted a gemini starter yesterday

very easy to do too all of tem minutes to alter 8)

Man what a dfference :D

and the best part is


one less Lucas Product in the Mini 8) :D
Author:  feralsprint [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:28 pm ]
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i will bet you it doesn't last the 30 yearsw the original lucas one has and it has less power to :lol:

Jon
Author:  Gadgets mini [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:36 pm ]
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yeah maybe not 30 years but the parts are easier to come by :wink:

less power?? my motor now turns over twice as fast as it did previously on startup :?
Author:  feralsprint [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:03 pm ]
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please don't be fooled by how fast it spins as the power of the motor is not told by how fast but by how much load it can turn and you can still get plenty of parts and complete rebuilt starters for the 30 year old starter. If you get a high comp big bore the gem is not really up to the job for long :D

Jon
Author:  9YaTaH [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:17 pm ]
Post subject:  RE-WIND
As previously stated....you can also get the original rewound with extra turns for extra grunt.
Author:  Spaceboy [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:38 pm ]
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my complaint is the lucas one is too noisy, are the later rover ones compatible with the old A- engines?
Author:  feralsprint [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:46 pm ]
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Spaceboy wrote:
my complaint is the lucas one is too noisy, are the later rover ones compatible with the old A- engines?


If that is your biggest complaint you have little to complain about :lol: the nois3e is caused by the worn ring gear and pinion and after 30 odd years it can be fixed, not sure about Rover ones they should fit

Jon
Author:  drmini in aust [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:03 pm ]
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Be careful with the Rover ones, the ring gear size changed in there somewhere...
There are a few other options:
Mini Classic in Sydney sells a Hi-power pre engaged one, it looks really shmick. $cost I'm not sure of.
MG Heritage sells a pre-engaged one too. Is around $170 I think. Mini Mad runs one in the Moke.
Author:  68matic [ Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:53 am ]
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ive got a $170 heritage one. hazent n duzent give me any problems
Author:  Mini Mad [ Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:58 am ]
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i gotta vote for the heritage one..a year or two down the track still going strong, pre engaged, and quiet ;)
Author:  Besser [ Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:39 am ]
Post subject:  It's all in the battery
SOme time ago was looking at the Gemini swap and contacted GM to find out the spec for the starter. Turns out the starter (not GM made by the way, looks like they have been substituting for some time) dosent put out as much torque as the Lucas.

Looking at the stat build up the Lucas draws an extra 50amps to reach max cranking torque.

SO in summary, if your having problems starting, it's probable a shoddy charged and wired battery.
Author:  smac [ Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:49 am ]
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These pre-engaged jobs need a different fly or at least ring gear don't they?
Author:  jbeenz [ Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:07 am ]
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smac wrote:
These pre-engaged jobs need a different fly or at least ring gear don't they?


i was thinking the same thing, i thought they were for the verto clutch?
Author:  Matt68 [ Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:51 am ]
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Rover mini pre-engaged = different ring gear

Gemini conversion or Heritage MG conversion = same ring gear as lucas inertia.

Heritage MG kit rocks!!

Cheers
Matt
Author:  smac [ Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:54 am ]
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ooo that sounds good (the heritage not the gemini) - pre-engaged means no more munching on the ring gear right?
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