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The 123 for a mini does come with the vacuum advance, but as the doc says, just don't hook it up if you have a weber or dellorto. that is all you gotta do.

Check out:
http://www.tdcperformance.ca

it is Marcel's own site.

Matt68 wrote:

Is that only for a 123?? or is it prefered not to have a vacuum gauge linked up unless its a delorto or webber? The reason I ask is because I have 1 3/4 SU with vacuum.... or is vacuum advance different to teh gauge or is it one in the same? excuse my igorance... still very much learning about the mechicals and electrics of Mini's.

How much is the 123 distaributor, landed in Australia?

$AUD550 based on the info from the website above.
You can get a lot of pulsar dizzys for that!
KB

1310/71 wrote:

$AUD550 based on the info from the website above.
You can get a lot of pulsar dizzys for that!
KB

Many years ago when I wrote that article on how to convert a Hitachi to fit in a Lucas hole (you're welcome!)

If you don't care about optimizing your ignition, then by all means do the Hitachi thang (and put a donation in the jar by my door

)

One thousand apologies sire!

Author:	Pin4e [ Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:49 pm ]
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I've wanted to buy one for a while but these guys only the one with the vac advance can i just plug it up or do i need one without vac advance. 45 dellorto. thanks. http://www.123ignition.com.au/

Author:	feralsprint [ Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:00 pm ]
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From there site the one for mini does not have vacumn advance so should not be a problem Jon

Author:	Pin4e [ Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:02 pm ]
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the install instruction shows a vac hook up, i just asumed, anyways if it did have one could i simply block it?

Author:	drmini in aust [ Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:40 pm ]
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No need to block it really, it does nothing unless there's a vac line to it. Same applies to the Nissan Pulsar dizzys...

Author:	Matt68 [ Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:34 pm ]
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The 123 for a mini does come with the vacuum advance, but as the doc says, just don't hook it up if you have a weber or dellorto. that is all you gotta do. Check out: http://www.tdcperformance.ca it is Marcel's own site.

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Author:	Pin4e [ Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:45 am ]
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yeah! it arrived today only took two days to get here very pleased. For anyone else looking for one highly reccomend www.123ignition.com.au

Author:	1360 LS [ Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:01 am ]
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Matt68 wrote: The 123 for a mini does come with the vacuum advance, but as the doc says, just don't hook it up if you have a weber or dellorto. that is all you gotta do. Check out: http://www.tdcperformance.ca it is Marcel's own site. Is that only for a 123?? or is it prefered not to have a vacuum gauge linked up unless its a delorto or webber? The reason I ask is because I have 1 3/4 SU with vacuum.... or is vacuum advance different to teh gauge or is it one in the same? excuse my igorance... still very much learning about the mechicals and electrics of Mini's.

Author:	Matt68 [ Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:56 am ]
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1360 LS wrote: Matt68 wrote: The 123 for a mini does come with the vacuum advance, but as the doc says, just don't hook it up if you have a weber or dellorto. that is all you gotta do. Check out: http://www.tdcperformance.ca it is Marcel's own site. Is that only for a 123?? or is it prefered not to have a vacuum gauge linked up unless its a delorto or webber? The reason I ask is because I have 1 3/4 SU with vacuum.... or is vacuum advance different to teh gauge or is it one in the same? excuse my igorance... still very much learning about the mechicals and electrics of Mini's. Vacuum advance is a way of advancing the ignition timing (so the spark occurs earlier, more degrees BTDC [before top dead centre]) at lower revs to burn the fuel more completely, give better economy and a smoother running. The vacuum for this is taken from the carb throat on an SU (I think it is just after the throttle spindle/ butterfly). Webbers and delortos simply don't have a vacuum port. With the 123 dizzy you can simply disconnect the vac advance pipe. On mechanical advance dizzys you may need to alter the vac advance mechanism as well, as there have been instances of the vac advance getting stuck once disconnected from the vac pipe, and over advancing the ignition timing. (not good) A vacuum gauge is an entirely different piece of gear. It is Manifold vacuum, and is taken from a port on the manifold. Usually used for an economy gauge, or diagnosing ring / head gasket / manifold gasket probs, in conjunction with a compression gauge. This help?

Author:	1360 LS [ Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:18 am ]
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Thanks for clearing that up for me... much appricated

Author:	Dave Elliott [ Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:51 pm ]
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How much is the 123 distaributor, landed in Australia?

Author:	1310/71 [ Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:10 pm ]
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Dave Elliott wrote: How much is the 123 distaributor, landed in Australia? $AUD550 based on the info from the website above. You can get a lot of pulsar dizzys for that! KB

Author:	chichm [ Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:42 am ]
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1310/71 wrote: $AUD550 based on the info from the website above. You can get a lot of pulsar dizzys for that! KB Mathematically that's correct, but technically not the same thing at all. The 123 has 16 user selectable curves whereas the Hitachi distributor used in the Nissan 1.6 has one curve which, for the most part, cannot be changed and is likely not correct for your engine. If you have a distributor machine and a selection of springs you could change the curve, but precious few Miniacs (like maybe 5 in the whole world!) have either of those. Many years ago when I wrote that article on how to convert a Hitachi to fit in a Lucas hole (you're welcome!) I said right up front that the thing had to be recurved to suit the engine it was going into. The very reason I designed the 123/Mini is for Miniacs who have no access to springs or distributor machines but want a correct curve. Sure you will notice a big improvement with a Hitachi distributor over a worn out points-type Lucas, sometimes an astounding improvement. Your chances of the standard Hitachi curve being optimized for your engine is pretty slim though. If you don't care about optimizing your ignition, then by all means do the Hitachi thang (and put a donation in the jar by my door )

Author:	1310/71 [ Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:25 am ]
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chichm wrote: 1310/71 wrote: $AUD550 based on the info from the website above. You can get a lot of pulsar dizzys for that! KB Many years ago when I wrote that article on how to convert a Hitachi to fit in a Lucas hole (you're welcome!) If you don't care about optimizing your ignition, then by all means do the Hitachi thang (and put a donation in the jar by my door ) Uh Oh Big Brother is watching One thousand apologies sire! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom on both counts. I am one of the many that has benefited from the pulsar dizzy. It does suit my needs for both performance, cost and reliability perfectly. when I get to Canada I will put that donation in your jar! KB

Author:	chichm [ Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:41 am ]
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1310/71 wrote: One thousand apologies sire! Hey, don't worship me! My ego don't need no strok'n (anyone who knows me will know who THAT is referring to !) I'm just this guy, ya know? I do stuff in the shop and I share it with others, free!

Author:	drmini in aust [ Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:38 am ]
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Hi, Marcel, I do think it's worth the do$h, considering how it works... Wish I could afford one... So... which curves would you start with for yer average Oz 1360 running a 270* or 282* cam, medium LCB and head work, with an HIF44 or 45DCOE??

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