Ausmini
It is currently Wed Jul 02, 2025 6:44 am

All times are UTC + 10 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 15 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Caliper Assembly Tips
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:40 pm 
Offline
1360cc
1360cc
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:07 pm
Posts: 10653
Location: SE Melbourne
I just had to take a pic of these before the paint goes on, cause they'll never look
this good again! :D I'll get a pic up when they are painted one day.
I think I'll invest in a bead blasting booth now! :D

Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:08 am 
Offline
1360cc
1360cc
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:07 pm
Posts: 10653
Location: SE Melbourne
OK, so 4 days later the calipers look like they need another blasting :evil: , so I'll buff em up tonight and get a coat of paint on them.
I'll follow the Doc's tip of fitting the seals and pistons before painting, there's just
a couple of things I'd like an answer to, if anyone knows.

1. What torque wrench setting will I need for the bolts that hold together the two
parts of the caliper (there are four)?
2. Should I put brake fluid in the groove where the fluid seal goes, or only on the edge that touches the piston?
3. Should I put brake fluid under the dust seal to help get it in, or is it to stay dry?
4. Is there an order for fitting, eg. fluid seal, then piston, then dust seal, or what?

Thanks.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:57 pm 
Offline
848cc
848cc
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:06 pm
Posts: 296
Location: Newcastle
coat everything in brake fluid.
first fit piston seal.
then slip the dust seal over the piston so that the part that sits in the goove of the caliper is clear of the piston end.
push seal into groove, and making sure that the whole seal is seated.
push piston into bore.
be very careful not to cock the piston and force it in,
it will be very tight.

I found it out the hard way

btw it looks like the bore has been bead blasted to me.... not a good thing if it is.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:24 pm 
Offline
1360cc
1360cc
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:07 pm
Posts: 10653
Location: SE Melbourne
Why is bead blasting the bores bad?
I had it done very lightly just to tidy it up.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:52 pm 
Offline
religious status
religious status
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:19 pm
Posts: 39752
Location: near Baulkham Hills, NSW
Bores will be fine if piston fits in OK (should be loose).
The sealing face is on the piston, not the bore..... the seals are static. :wink:

_________________
DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R. :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:15 am 
Offline
1275cc
1275cc
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:07 pm
Posts: 4682
Location: sunbury victoria
hmm, my pistons need a fair push to get them in, what should i be doing to them?? am do i need to do anything to them to make them fit better?

_________________
Potato


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: screwed the pooch
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:06 am 
Offline
998cc
998cc

Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:23 am
Posts: 581
Location: Eastern Melbourne
Blasting the bores is bad.

They are like engine bores and need to be honed to specific tollerance. Under a microscope the blasted finish is really poreous and a hone is peak and trough. I suggest going to a brake specialist to see if it can be saved.

good luck as the last thing you want is a siezed piston when coming into a corner hot!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:03 pm 
Offline
1360cc
1360cc
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:07 pm
Posts: 10653
Location: SE Melbourne
I took em to a brake specialist for a clean up, and they did the bead blasting.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:27 pm 
Offline
religious status
religious status
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:19 pm
Posts: 39752
Location: near Baulkham Hills, NSW
PM sent. :wink:

_________________
DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R. :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:54 pm 
Offline
1360cc
1360cc
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:07 pm
Posts: 10653
Location: SE Melbourne
Hey, I've got the piston and seal in place, the dust seal is yet to go on.
Should that be covered in brake fluid as well, or is it supposed to stay dry?
Thanks.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:04 pm 
Offline
religious status
religious status
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:19 pm
Posts: 39752
Location: near Baulkham Hills, NSW
Harley wrote:
Hey, I've got the piston and seal in place, the dust seal is yet to go on.
Should that be covered in brake fluid as well, or is it supposed to stay dry?
Thanks.

Is it the 4 pot rubber one? I would put a bit of rubber grease on it. :wink:

_________________
DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R. :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:15 pm 
Offline
1360cc
1360cc
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:07 pm
Posts: 10653
Location: SE Melbourne
Both seals are rubber, the outer having the metal retainer on it.
Rubber grease ay?
What would happen if it came in contact with the brake fluid?
Just checking to see it wouldn't create sme sort of high corrosive and
bad smelling goo. :? :D


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:06 pm 
Offline
religious status
religious status
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:19 pm
Posts: 39752
Location: near Baulkham Hills, NSW
OK so it's like my S I guess- I thought it was a rubber boot on them, like Jap cars..

I use Dow Corning silicone grease if I can get it, or rubber grease, or brake fluid.
Rubber grease you can get from brake shops and is designed for brake caliper and wheel cylinder assembly.

_________________
DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R. :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:41 pm 
Offline
1360cc
1360cc
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:07 pm
Posts: 10653
Location: SE Melbourne
Are they all the same as far as heat resistance goes?
Sorry for all the questions, I just want to get it right first go, so it
lasts a while. 8)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:51 am 
Offline
religious status
religious status
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:19 pm
Posts: 39752
Location: near Baulkham Hills, NSW
Harley wrote:
Are they all the same as far as heat resistance goes?
Sorry for all the questions, I just want to get it right first go, so it
lasts a while. 8)

A light smear of silicone grease is best if you can get it.
Last time I did mine I just used brake fluid as it's all I had handy, no problems.

_________________
DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R. :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 15 posts ] 

All times are UTC + 10 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 24 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  

© 2016 Ausmini. All garage work involves equal measures of enthusiasm, ingenuity and a fair degree of irresponsibility.