I would say 2 pack because acrylic is porous and fairly soft.
Bit of trivia as a side note....2Pac, backwards is cap 2 and that tool got 2 caps in his ass.
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| Author: | inazuma_x [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | acrylic or 2pac? |
which is better? why? |
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| Author: | morphias [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:43 am ] |
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I would say 2 pack because acrylic is porous and fairly soft. Bit of trivia as a side note....2Pac, backwards is cap 2 and that tool got 2 caps in his ass.
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| Author: | inazuma_x [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:46 am ] |
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morphias wrote: I would say 2 pack because acrylic is porous and fairly soft.
Bit of trivia as a side note....2Pac, backwards is cap 2 and that tool got 2 caps in his ass. i see...interesting on both accounts...so its 2-Pack not 2-Pac...google came up with both as valid spellings for the paint... what do the rest of you guys/gals reckon? |
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| Author: | awdmoke [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:53 am ] |
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2 pack sets faster/harder/stronger. It's what most professionals use (haven't tried it myself). See JAM's site |
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| Author: | Angusdog [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:00 pm ] |
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Doesn't it depend on your equipment, vis. the deadly fumes from the isocyanates? So spraying 2 Pack at home is more or less out of the question. Also, once 2 pack hardens you can't cut it back like acrylic to get rid of runs etc (as I understand it). From Carcraft.com: Quote: Acrylic Enamel: Chemically enhanced enamel formulas are the mainstay of modern refinishing products. Acrylic enamels use a catalyst to induce chemical reactions that produce a paint film of remarkable durability, chemical resistance, and gloss. Acrylic enamels can be polished like lacquer to a mirror finish. Quote: Lacquer: The old standard for custom paint work, lacquers are a distinct paint type characterized by fast drying times and the ability to be polished to a beautiful luster. Poor durability and chemical resistance are the downside.
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| Author: | feralsprint [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:16 pm ] |
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You can still cut 2 pak but it is harder than acrylic, same way cut and then buff just more elbow grease required, if your putting clear over you have to cut the imperfections before the clear |
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| Author: | inazuma_x [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:44 pm ] |
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feralsprint wrote: You can still cut 2 pak but it is harder than acrylic, same way cut and then buff just more elbow grease required, if your putting clear over you have to cut the imperfections before the clear
well...i basically want this paintjob to last forever, or as near to forever as is possible...so...durability as well as finish are the 2 most important factors... |
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| Author: | CRU17Y [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:06 pm ] |
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So can you paint with 2pac at home?? Yes while 2Pac is playing in the background |
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| Author: | sweep77 [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:17 pm ] |
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2pac is much harder than acrylic so it lasts much longer. body prep is more important for 2pac cause the finish that comes off the gun is what you'll get. acrylic needs o be sanded and buffed and polished afterwards. acrylic is much easier to touch up, especially if u get stone chips. 2pac finish is also alot better, much glossier than acrylic. 2pac is also alot more expensive to buy. $500/4l comapred to $150/4l. |
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| Author: | inazuma_x [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:25 pm ] |
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sweep77 wrote: 2pac is much harder than acrylic so it lasts much longer. body prep is more important for 2pac cause the finish that comes off the gun is what you'll get. acrylic needs o be sanded and buffed and polished afterwards. acrylic is much easier to touch up, especially if u get stone chips. 2pac finish is also alot better, much glossier than acrylic. 2pac is also alot more expensive to buy. $500/4l comapred to $150/4l.
always a bloody trade-off isn't it?  hehehe
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| Author: | feralsprint [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:11 pm ] |
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Go for the 2 pak, i got 4 ltrs last week for $300, shop around prices do vary from shop to shop, the extra amount of prep work is outweighed by the less work to finish and the same amount of prep work should be done no matter what paint you are using, if its a bare metal respray there is no difference in prep, etch prime, primer and rub down then top coats, if its not bare metal you will have to use a sealer primer if going over acrylic Jon |
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| Author: | inazuma_x [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:53 pm ] |
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feralsprint wrote: Go for the 2 pak, i got 4 ltrs last week for $300, shop around prices do vary from shop to shop, the extra amount of prep work is outweighed by the less work to finish and the same amount of prep work should be done no matter what paint you are using, if its a bare metal respray there is no difference in prep, etch prime, primer and rub down then top coats, if its not bare metal you will have to use a sealer primer if going over acrylic
Jon does the color of the paint affect the price? metallic blue and pearlescent white is what i am after... |
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| Author: | feralsprint [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:29 pm ] |
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only by the same amount no matter what paint you buy, custom paint is dearer because of the additives like the pearl, like I said $300 got me 4 ltrs of Ducati yellow |
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| Author: | 850pete [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 2 Pack |
inazuma_x judging from your previous posts and from what i've gathered you want to achieve the only way to go is 2 Pack. A Good quality brand 2 pack if looked after well will last forever, Acrylic Laquer always needs attention to make it last. I personally think there is less work in a 2pack job, surface prep is the same no matter what type of paint you use. There's no rubbing down between coats with 2 pack compared to Acrylic and no need to worry about rubbing everything down and buffing if your booth is clean and your painter is top notch. Acrylic paint is excellent for the home user as its relatively safe and user friendly, Most panelshops dont even have a full Acrylic paint system anymore and if they do and thats all they use well i probably wouldnt have my car repaired there. Professionals Painters using acrylic for restoration work would only be doing it to replicate an authentic finish on a car, there isnt too many painters worth their salt who would willingly choose acrylic over 2 pack. If your paying someone to paint your car i'd insist a premium 2 pack finish using a quality paint system like Glasurit, PPG etc. You wont be dissappointed. |
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| Author: | aaron [ Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:58 pm ] |
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Can you Shoot an acrylic base coat at home and then shoot a 2pack clear coat in the booth over the top? Just trying to worki out if this could be a cheaper option. You also woulnd need to rub it back, am i correct or way off the mark? cheers Aaron |
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