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| Author: | IwannaMini [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | linking a 1275 to a puddle stick gearstick |
OK? I am looking at throwing in a 1275 in the van, but want to retain the puddle stick inside. Someone was saying that you can put the wand type gearlever in other gearboxes and that if you have a remote box (not rod change) you just take off the remote part, add a couple of bits to the mechanism then bolt a pressed steel plate to where the remote housing used to go. Does this sound right..? I cannot think for the life of me about how this works..? Apparently Northern Mini Parts have the parts and there are ?exploded? diagrams that explain how this works.. has anyone seen these pics??? Help as always is appreciated. I know that the doc said I could bolt a puddle stick gear box onto a 1275, but what would be stronger and last longer..? A later model remote box or the puddle gears. Last question ? this will sound stupid, but which cars had the remote box as opposed to the rod change..? |
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| Author: | czerial [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:35 pm ] |
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i would say personally to put the 1275 on a rmote box with puddlestick attatchment. the cars that had remote (as opposed to rod) were all deluxes, coopers, coooper s's and early clubmans.. as far as i know most vans had puddlesticks as did all 850's. remotes were reserved for clubbies only. |
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| Author: | fuzzy-hair-man [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:40 pm ] |
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czerial wrote: i would say personally to put the 1275 on a rmote box with puddlestick attatchment. I agree then you get a four synchro box too. czerial wrote: The cars that had remote (as opposed to rod) were all deluxes, coopers, coooper s's and early clubmans.. and mini Ks czerial wrote: remotes were reserved for clubbies only. Don't you mean rod changes were reserved for clubbies  
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| Author: | czerial [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:49 pm ] |
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yep very correct, sorry typoo 
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| Author: | meeni [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:26 pm ] |
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can someone explain what a puddle stick is |
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| Author: | Timbo [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:49 pm ] |
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Its pretty easy to do, if you have the toggle gear change as found on pre-rod change mokes and some vans. All you do is fit the toggle and throw away the remote casting. The gearbox casings are identical. The term is 'pudding stirrer', I've never heard it called puddle before. Tim |
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| Author: | Mini Mad [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:52 pm ] |
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It's the orginal 'Magic Wand' gear linkage system from the early cars..the one that comes further forward through the firewall.. |
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| Author: | djhaddo1 [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:45 pm ] |
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Sorry for the slight hijack, Are these as robust as the rod/remote types? |
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| Author: | TK [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:36 pm ] |
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This has been discussed recently in depth. not your fault though. This forum is becoming a bit of a nightnare. For example I've seen the 'alternative starter' subject posted in three different areas. Hmmmmm??? |
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| Author: | IwannaMini [ Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:44 am ] |
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TK... send link and will check it out I did a search before but I think because I call it a puddle stick and not a pudding stirrer I may not have gotten the right results.   whoops...
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| Author: | Anto [ Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:36 pm ] |
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Yeah I used to have a spare 4 synchro remote box that had under gone the pudding stirrer conversion. Still had the remote diff housing on it, but had a sandwich plate underneath and I believe the Y yoke part (Bell Crank Lever apparently) was removed. Didn't some of the Mokes come like this? Don't know why it had been done, the motor came with a Clubman parts car, which was originally remote not pudding stirrer. |
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| Author: | TK [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:47 pm ] |
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I'll try and get some pictures and send them via email, dunno about posting. I have the magic wand/pudding stirrer whatever style change that Wombat is picking up. Problem is that I stuffed my back and I'm out of action for a while. I'll do my best |
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| Author: | danidad [ Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:55 pm ] |
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i think what you are looking for is what i posted pics of in the mini chat forum .. http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11872 |
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| Author: | WhoDat [ Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:07 pm ] |
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"Pudding Stick" gear shifter, also referred to as "Majic Wand" in some parts of the country because of it's lack of any majic gear shifting qualities I suspect. The shifter mechanism comes through the firewall just aft of the Diff, has a long handle to reach the driver and consiquently has a very long "throw" of the stick to get from one gear to the next. This also excentuates any wear in the mechanism and so they are natoriously "sloppy" [And fom personal experience, I would describe the feel of such a changer as technically "bloody awful"] 
The Good News is that the "Remote" shifter mechanism [Cooper S spec] will bolt straight up to one of these. So if you get a Remote shifter mechanism, the bracket to mount this to the underside of the tunnel and the extension "trumpet" to extend from the diff to the shifter then your set. Open up a hole in the floor for the remote shiter in the more conventional position, and seal up the old hole and your done. 
End result - An Awsome gear change.Bbit of a hassle but well worth the effort. ------------ So you actually want to get a really good Remote changer and turn it into a shitbox Pudding Stick?????? Emmmm....Give me a call on my private line I'll give you the number of a really brilliant Psychiatrist - I think you need one
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| Author: | mickmini [ Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:00 pm ] |
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magic wand/puding stirrer for 850 gearboxes is built into the diff housing. it is NOT possible to change to remote gearchange or back with this type. however - the later vans including clubman vans that had the magic wand/pudding stirrer gearstick have the same diff housing as remote change boxes, but the remote housing that bolts up to the diff housing was considerably shorter to accommodate the different gearlever. have a good look at the vans gearbox and see what gearbox casting you have. if it is the same as a 3 synchro or 4 synchro remote casting, then you have the latter bolt on short remote and can reuse the gearbox. if not a mini K box with the "short" remote houing from a van is wanted 
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