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I had a look at my friend Graham's car at Wakefield Pk- the PO had welded all around the parcel tray both sides, and down the sides of the rear seat back.Also the full roll cage was welded into the pillars at all 4 corners. Looked pretty stiff to me.. :wink:

I meant to add- this car of Graham's was not built for hysterical racing- just to have some fun... :wink:

Very good point Mick! I must be too innocent and not think of such cheating ways :shock:

It stiffens the car up alot just being bolted in anyway but I'm always looking for that little extra.

Anthony

Hi Mick,

Unfortunately Historic Racing guys would read that add as such: :wink:

Mini 850, tarted to look like Cooper S with twin tanks (not needed and extra weight for Historics), adjustable suspension (illegal in Historics), flares (only suitable for Group NC), 6" wheels (NC again), wooden dash (gotta come out) tacho ($10,000 motor attached to a second hand tacho....hmmm no!), new shell, complete except engine and gearbox (Complete except for the bit that makes it a Cooper S!!) Ideal for Group Nb (suitable for someone who likes talking to eligibility officers!!) or Mini enthusiast (more money and enthusiasm than experience).

Thanks for keeping me in mind though.

Anthony
HRS
(hope you enjoyed the piece above :wink:

)

Author:	HistoricRacingS [ Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:52 pm ]
Post subject:	Seam Welding a Race Mini
Has anyone had any experience seem welding a Mini? I'm looking at welding an early round nose to add body stiffness for handling. Which parts are the most advantageous to weld? HRS

Author:	9YaTaH [ Sat Jul 03, 2004 8:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Careful of Spatter
Just be real careful Anthony that you don't accidently get any "dags" between the seams and the roll bar Cheers, Mick

Author:	HistoricRacingS [ Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:49 pm ]
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Hi Mick, I'd take the roll cage out I think as I'd have to repaint anyway. Thinking of refreshing the car at the end of the year and have only just found out that seam welding is allowed. I'm now working through in my mind which areas would give the best advantage. Anthony HRS PS: Have you got a Mini yet?

Author:	dewey [ Sun Jul 04, 2004 12:11 pm ]
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Vizard has a section in his :how to modify ..." book. I can't remember what exactly he says but its definitely got something in there. Probably around the suspension towers and across the floor I think. dewey

Author:	drmini in aust [ Sun Jul 04, 2004 4:23 pm ]
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I had a look at my friend Graham's car at Wakefield Pk- the PO had welded all around the parcel tray both sides, and down the sides of the rear seat back.Also the full roll cage was welded into the pillars at all 4 corners. Looked pretty stiff to me..

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Author:	HistoricRacingS [ Sun Jul 04, 2004 6:39 pm ]
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Dewey: Thanks for the heads up. I'm going to search for my copy of Vizard!! Kevin: Thanks for the suggestions. The rear seat section could definately do with strengthening. Unfortunately I wont be welding my cage in as it is Alloy and I'd like to be able to remove it if I have to for repairs. Thanks once again, Anthony aka HRS

Author:	drmini in aust [ Sun Jul 04, 2004 6:46 pm ]
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Vizard HTMYM, p164. But, he is talking about off-road use, not racing... After brazing all the seams he talks about reinforcing the front shock mounts, subframe mounts, tunnel and crossmember etc etc.

Author:	9YaTaH [ Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Careful....re eligibility
drmini in aust wrote: I had a look at my friend Graham's car at Wakefield Pk- the PO had welded all around the parcel tray both sides, and down the sides of the rear seat back.Also the full roll cage was welded into the pillars at all 4 corners. Looked pretty stiff to me.. Well, it probably would not pass scrutineering for Historics, seam welding yes, stiffening the body by welding the roll cage to the body was a no no last time I looked!!? Hence my previous crack about watching out for dags !!! Check or replace fixing bolts while you are there!!

Author:	HistoricRacingS [ Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:18 pm ]
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Very good point Mick! I must be too innocent and not think of such cheating ways It stiffens the car up alot just being bolted in anyway but I'm always looking for that little extra. Anthony

Author:	drmini in aust [ Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:05 pm ]
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I meant to add- this car of Graham's was not built for hysterical racing- just to have some fun...

Author:	9YaTaH [ Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:27 pm ]
Post subject:	Minis = FUN!!
drmini in aust wrote: I meant to add- this car of Graham's was not built for hysterical racing- just to have some fun... Eligible for the Hysterics or not - it still looks neat, well engineered and a heap a fun!!

Author:	9YaTaH [ Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:36 pm ]
Post subject:	Racer For Sale????
HistoricRacingS wrote: Very good point Mick! I must be too innocent and not think of such cheating ways It stiffens the car up alot just being bolted in anyway but I'm always looking for that little extra. Anthony CANBERRA TIMES COOPER S Mk 1 '63, sliding window, twin tank, adjust susp, flares, 6" wheels, wooden dash incl taco, has had replacement shell at some stage, complete, no engine or gear box, unreg, ideal for Nb historics or Mini enthusiast, $5,900. Phone 0412670422. AUTO : MOTOR VEHICLES 17/07/2004 Know anyone who might be interested Anthony?

Author:	HistoricRacingS [ Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:47 pm ]
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Hi Mick, Unfortunately Historic Racing guys would read that add as such: Mini 850, tarted to look like Cooper S with twin tanks (not needed and extra weight for Historics), adjustable suspension (illegal in Historics), flares (only suitable for Group NC), 6" wheels (NC again), wooden dash (gotta come out) tacho ($10,000 motor attached to a second hand tacho....hmmm no!), new shell, complete except engine and gearbox (Complete except for the bit that makes it a Cooper S!!) Ideal for Group Nb (suitable for someone who likes talking to eligibility officers!!) or Mini enthusiast (more money and enthusiasm than experience). Thanks for keeping me in mind though. Anthony HRS (hope you enjoyed the piece above )

Author:	9YaTaH [ Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:54 pm ]
Post subject:	Classic!!!
HistoricRacingS wrote: Hi Mick, Unfortunately Historic Racing guys would read that add as such: Mini 850, tarted to look like Cooper S with twin tanks (not needed and extra weight for Historics), adjustable suspension (illegal in Historics), flares (only suitable for Group NC), 6" wheels (NC again), wooden dash (gotta come out) tacho ($10,000 motor attached to a second hand tacho....hmmm no!), new shell, complete except engine and gearbox (Complete except for the bit that makes it a Cooper S!!) Ideal for Group Nb (suitable for someone who likes talking to eligibility officers!!) or Mini enthusiast (more money and enthusiasm than experience). Thanks for keeping me in mind though. Anthony HRS (hope you enjoyed the piece above ) certainly did - still it might have a lineage or pedigree yet!!! Thnk I liked the second hand tacho best........is that a sweep second hand??

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