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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:35 am 
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I have braided lines for my metro 4 pots like a lot of other people. the ACT version of the RTA says they won't allow them (I am assuming with a engineers certificate I will get them by). Does anyone know why they are so down on braided lines. I hear the teflon degrades and you can't tell because of the braided steel. But you really can't tell with standard lines either until they go bang and your rooted anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:39 am 
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Does anyone know why they are so down on braided lines. I hear the teflon degrades and you can't tell because of the braided steel. But you really can't tell with standard lines either until they go bang and your rooted anyway.


Swelling in the lines or perishing would tell you that the brake lines needed replacing :?: just guessing...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:55 am 
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It's really to do with the fact that who is to know what's underneath all that nice braiding?

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its apparently more to do with the fact that most braided lines are hand made and are not manufactured according to the appropriate australian standard like all other brake lines. All you have to do is get the braided lines with the AS number stamped on them. KYODA had a lead on a manufacturer, so PM her and see what turns up.

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I have the BF Goodrich lines made for the metro conversion and I am pretty sure these aren't hand made. Also I believe they meet the British Standard which is equal in most case to the Oz standard.

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Its stupid...you aren't allowed them in NZ either. They were developed and are used on aircraft for gods sake, its not like they are dangerous or anything.
I think there may be a part number dating thing with them - similar to racing harnesses. So they are not legal after they have "expired". Not sure about Aussie rules though :D

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As I understand it, they are acceptable if you have proof they meet Australian Standards.
This should be embossed on the hose, but a manufacturer's certificate is also OK.
That way they know it's not just vacuum hose with a SuperCrap shiny braided cover!

I'm getting mine made by my local brake specialist - just to be on the safe side :D

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Australian Made ADR approved braded hoses:

http://www.maltech.com.au/home.html

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If they were in Sydney i would thank you. :P

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Umm guys I already have braided hoses which came with the kit I smuggled back into the country on a trawler. The standard conversion hoses (ala Mini Spares UK etc). What do I do to get these over the line given that they weren't made in Oz but obviously they must have sold millions of them...

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Volodkovich wrote:
Its stupid...you aren't allowed them in NZ either.


I thought that too, but Mossrax by the Basin Reserve sells approved braided steel lines.


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there are 4 company brands that can be used in new zealand and go to any motorbike shop and buy them you wont have a problem with them.as they are stamped with the correct numbers and pass everytime i have sent my car in and i have had them on my car for years now.
Also if you go to most brak shops they can make them for you on the spot.

the ones form the uk are not upto british spec as keith calver says they know they are better than std pipes so there is no problems usually.I asked him about this when i cam over here and went thru all the same crap, it has something to do with the crimping of the ends on the pipe.cos some boy racer years ago made some in a vice and they came off when he went down the raod and crashed and hurt a budgie sitting in a tree so they have banned all types that have no stamps on them.


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are goodridge braided pipes leagl?

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minicranks wrote:
...hurt a budgie sitting in a tree so they have banned all types that have no stamps on them.


I remember that - it was on the TV news and everything. You Australians might not know this, but the NZ Government has recently out death, and from March 2005 it has been illegal to die.

But seriously, they're now saying second-hand smoke kills over 300 NZers a year. Well I think if a little smoke knocks you off, you're probably not in the best of health anyway.

This reminds me of when the UK government banned dark visors on motorcycle helmets. Not illegal for sale, but illegal to own. Like cannabis. Oh, and braided steel brakes lines? Those things will KILL you! RUN, RUN NOW WHILE YOU STILL CAN! HERE COMES A CAR WITH UPGRADED DISK BRAKES! IT WILL KILL YOU...


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