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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:28 pm 
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Hi guys
has anyone used the hypertec pistons
Are they a good / bad unit
Are they good value for what you get, I have been quoted $250 dollars for pistons and rings
Anyone recomend a piston for 1275 fast road use around 10:1 comp
cheers paul


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:34 pm 
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Can't think of anything better, for the money. I know people that race with those ones. They look a bit like a 21253 Hepolite but are stronger- the oil drains are drilled holes, not a dirty big slot.
I got a set of Hypatec 73.0s (1360cc) for $270.
Hepolites (73.5) would have cost me over $600, and this way, I got 1 bore job left in the block for next time.. :wink:

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commonly used by Group N Mini guys around Brisbane, I use the in my sprint mini, absolutely no problems with 8000 revs regularly. Good value for money, tip is to use Hastings rings with them. Steve


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where do you get these pistons, are they readily available locally, i.e. australia? or do you have to order them in?

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Can get them from Ken Nelson at Mini Automotive in QLD. Doc knows the website..... :P

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mini automotive, do you mean MR automotive?

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http://www.miniauto.com.au/ is Ken Nelson's site. I got mine there too. Email him.. 8)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:43 am 
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so value for money the hypatecs are the go as opposed to heplite 21253 pistons ?

Would they be suitable for cutouts and to be used on an engine that produces over 140 bhp ?
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Fine for that hp and fine for cut outs as they have a thickish crown.

I bought a set of 1360s not long ago from Minisport in Adelaide with hastings rings for only $179.00 yeah hah!!! :)

check out ebay. Here you go:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/mini-morris-aust ... dZViewItem


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:28 pm 
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designer wrote:
so value for money the hypatecs are the go as opposed to heplite 21253 pistons ?

Would they be suitable for cutouts and to be used on an engine that produces over 140 bhp ?
cheers

The Hepolite 21253s have a milled slot behind the oil ring for drainage. Pistons can break there under extreme duress.
Hypatecs look similar but have drilled holes, a much stronger solution.
I'm running Hypatec 73mm in the 1360, it sees 8000 now and then. I also have them in the 1412 stroker, but it's still being built.
Hypatecs are a great piston, you won't do better unless you go for Russell Engineering's ones. They are similar design but the crown dish is a different shape, better for HP.
Note the 998 ones are on left, 73mm (1360cc) ones on the right.
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Doe Russel Engineering make those '1360' pistons in 1330? (+0.030")?

They look suspiciously like the ones in my engine, which I am unsure of the type. The dish in the same way, with a flat lowered section. And the step up to the flat top ring around them is very steep.

Do they have a part number?

<edit> Also mine look very similiar underneath regarding the 'skirts', I think they are called.

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1330 is +.060", yes I'm pretty sure he does.
ring him and check- (02) 9630 2195. :wink:

Before he got these pistons made, he used to put the same dish shape into Hypatecs.

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Cool, I'll give him a buzz sometime. :)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:48 pm 
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drmini in aust wrote:
1330 is +.060".


Dummmmb, yes. Mine are +0.060" according to my reciept from the engine builders, although the builder's insisted that +0.060 was 1310cc, I didn't bother argueing....

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:29 pm 
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slinkey inc wrote:
I didn't bother argueing....


That doesn't sound much like you :roll:

40thou is 1310.
So your engine builder is a twat.


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