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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:07 am 
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Why is it that conversions are like 50/50 between clubbies and roundies, but there is only a sprinkling of Moke conversions? Is there some big difference or reason why people dont want to convert Mokes over? I would have thought the power/weight ratio would have produced a faster car... or is the structure of a Moke not strong enough to take the weight/stress of a more powerful engine?

I have seen a couple of threads with Mokes on here and cant see why there arent more out there being done...


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well awdmoke is doing one...


so that will bring the completed project average down....


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those mokers are a bit wierd you know.....

there are a few getting around, a Daihatsu diesel, a Morris 1500 (?), Tricky did a Swift GTI

maybe it's because conversions fall into 2 general categories - reliable daily driver and racetrack screamer... maybe Mokes don't lend themselves to either

or maybe there are just so many more minis around

is anyone a member of the moke forum?

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There is also the mid engined (suzuki Gti) moke running about Sydney somewhere , A moke should be a little easier if anything with all the flat panels but maybe people just prefer the feeling of safety in an enclosed car (a 4EFTE moke with little aero screens and a bit of streamlining would be fun though ....) .

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Is the moke engine bay smaller than a roundnose?


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The Moke engine bay is a slightly different shape to either a roundy or a clubby. There's a little less room at the back and a bit more than a roundy at the front up high, but a little less than either Mini down low.

I have no idea why there are more converted Minis than Mokes, probably because there are heaps more Minis than Mokes. Moke owners seem to be a different demographic. I guess Mokes aren't seen as being so cool for the young people these days. the average age on here would be heaps lower than on the Moke forum.

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There are quite a few young people on here with mokes, me included, we just dont frequent the moke forum as much. Mokes are cool :D

I think an all out track moke would be a weapon. I wouldn't do it to a moke though..

I prefer to use a moke to cruise and go the the beach etc.

Mokes are more expensive than mini's and there are also less of them around.

The Mokes engine bay is also rediculously small when compared to mini's and it's and awkward shape. If you cut the inner guards too you will be able to see the motor from the outside :lol:

Safety and practicality would come into it as well.

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Mini Mad wrote:
Mokes are cool :D


I'm glad you think so, I've thought so ever since I was a "young person" too. Many others didn't, I've been ridiculed for years.

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Fair enough reasoning I guess. I would love a Moke with modern day running gear..!

Would the engineering on a Moke be mroe stringent? I looked at the papers I got with the one I just bought and the engineering review was pretty limited

new engine - tick
does it have brakes - tick
is it quiet enough - tick....

Nothing about the desgn or structural rigidity of the subframe etc etc.

Personally I would love to find a suzuki sierra and throw the moke on that chassis...


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I've seen it done a couple of times. It doesn't really convince me.

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I reckon the drive train from a small AWD car would be better, Holden Cruze maybe?

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OMG... I didnt realise it would look so fugly.

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Flat front and screen with a tent on top it flaps about in my 1275 moke hate to think what would happen if it was pushed with 200bhp? sounds like ripping good fun


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 Post subject: Re: Car choice...
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:04 pm 
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IwannaMini wrote:
Is there some big difference or reason why people dont want to convert Mokes over?


A. You simply cannot improve on the brilliance of a moke. :D Seriously, I've driven my moke at 80km/h, would hate to be in it doing 110km/h. Maybe it's due to its design lending itself to cruising rather than performance.

As for the Moke demographic, at 35 I think I'm the oldest fart out of the 6 or so mokes that I know currently being driven around in Sydney.

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If a Mini has the aerodynamics of a brick, a Moke has those of a highway roadside advertising sign.
Seriously, 80MPH would be about it I reckon, whether 100 or 200HP... so why bother. :lol:
Ask Mini Mad what a Moke is like at those sort of speeds- I hear the sidescreens fly away. :P

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Don't discount the performance credentials of a moke :D

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Haha yea, but you're young at heart Ben ;)

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