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| Author: | d1ck0 [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:07 pm ] |
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has anybody seen a BP-T transplanted into a Mini. I know where I can get one for the right price so i might be interested. Dicko. |
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| Author: | Treble [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:30 pm ] |
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Id be interested to know if this is possible too. ive for a BPT powered laser tx3 daily. and know a fair bit about em. as far as finding them, join the forum on www.fordlaser.com, there are often engine packages for sale on there. [Edit] sorry, misread your post, thought you wanted to know where to find one. oh well, the forums may have some helpful info aswell. |
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| Author: | d1ck0 [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:18 pm ] |
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Yes very nice motors. My son has a KH2 TX-3 as does my brother. My brothers wife drove through a puddle (with a BD4's cold air induction kit) and had a compression lock-up. I suspect I'll need piston & rod and possibly a crank. Mind you it still runs and is not noisy, just the piston is physically lower in one cylinder. It was run for a while after getting it going so I'm not worried about water sitting in it, it'd be all gone by now. Can't be any bigger than a vauxhaul/vtec etc. I'm sure we can fit one in. I might buy a sub-frame and see if i can find a front cut (clubby, seeing thats what we got) to play with. wouldn't have to be a good one just good for sizing etc. |
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| Author: | Archangel007 [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:20 pm ] |
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Dicko, I have not actually tried to fit one myself, but the scuttlebut is that they wont fit because the gearbox is too big. I am not certain whether this pertains to the fwd model as well as the awd model, but the awd model definately wont fit. Cheers, Tricky |
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| Author: | d1ck0 [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:49 pm ] |
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Now AWD would be nice  , but I was going to go FWD.
I recall that the earlier B6 gearboxes weren't all that big. Finding one to handle the power could be interesting. Seeing I can get the motor for nothing, I might look into this further. Hey, maybe I'll be the first. 
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| Author: | Treble [ Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:23 pm ] |
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with the BPT, the awd and fwd gearboxes are pretty much identical width off the side of the motor, the AWD is just bigger at the back because of the transfer. and yeah, they are quite big, maybe a little bit too big for a mini. would be a sweet conversion, as they are great motors. |
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| Author: | Archangel007 [ Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:54 pm ] |
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Dicko, I thinks its time to get out the tape measure. If the B6 gearbox is smaller, and it bolts straight up (it does I think, yes?) then you may be on a winner. All I know is that when I measured the AWD one, it was firewall modification and remote steering rack time!! Are you saying you can get the BP-T engine for nicks? Isn't the BP series 1.8 litres? What about a B6-T instead? Cheers, Tricky |
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| Author: | Treble [ Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:16 pm ] |
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Yeah bp is 1.8, B6 is 1.6. The motors themselves are about the same size From what i understand a bpt would chew the b6 gearbox in no time (they have a hard enough time not chewing the BPT boxes!) Although, i know of one bloke who has a BPT in a B6 series laser. He has used the B6 Bellhousing, a ford telstar gearcase and a mazda ifini gearset. mind you its a drag car, so its probably a bit of strength overkill for this application. but that gearbox setup my be a bit smaller, not sure. |
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| Author: | d1ck0 [ Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:21 pm ] |
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Yes I can get it for free, and yes the BP is 1.8l (1839cc). Therefore using the 2.5x weight for capacity rule it would need to have weighed 735kg, Don't think I'll get it registered even if it will fit. So 1x Mini Clubman @ 638Kg, 638x2.5 = 1595. Even the B6-T is 1597cc, 2cc too big. Now if I put a B1 crank in, that would be 83x78.4 = bugger 1697cc. Well that's burst my bubble. Could make a nice track car....... Dicko |
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| Author: | Archangel007 [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:29 am ] |
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Well hell, I wont tell anybody if you dont. The B6-T would be ideal, as 2cc wont make any difference (my Engineer said 1600cc and be damned with it!) My understanding is that the B6 and BP are too totally different engines, with nothing that is interchangeable (certainly no crank, rods etc), same with the BP and B1(??). Myself, I would put the engine in anyway, would be a hell of a shame to waste such a good motor - let me know if you dont want it (ho ho). Cheers, Tricky |
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| Author: | d1ck0 [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:25 pm ] |
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How about a mid mount?? The mind is going crazy on what I can do with this thing. Tricky, just spent a few hours reading your El Gato post. Unbelievable I must say. You've been very thorough and the post has been fantastic. Maybe I should sell the BP-T and buy a Toyo, then I could get one of your subframes as you seem to have them sorted. My other thought is to go the B series Honda route. I used to be a Honda Service Manager so have a bit of a soft spot there as well. K24 would be sweet (like the MiniTech one) but again 2.4 is just too big isn't it? Keep up the good work. Dicko. |
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| Author: | slinkey inc [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:10 pm ] |
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Or even better, the supercharged K24 from Minitech......yummmmmm I think you should do a little research first. And if you can..go for it!
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| Author: | Kennomini [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:02 pm ] |
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d1ck0 wrote: How about a mid mount?? The mind is going crazy on what I can do with this thing.
I've had those same thoughts  . Get the biggest, most poferfulist engine (legealy) possable and make a mid mount, RWD mini It would have pretty good weight distrabution (with fuel, raidator & battery up front) just hope it won't under steer when thrown into a corner or over steer when given the boot on the way out  You'd also get pretty good acceleration traction compaired to a mini with the same engine up front 
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| Author: | d1ck0 [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:32 pm ] |
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Kennomini wrote: just hope it won't under steer when thrown into a corner or over steer when given the boot on the way out but isn't that just the fun of it all.
I remember working at a Honda Dealer and a workmate (who dorve a very quick 351 XY Falcon) commenting that these front wheel drives were useless. I took him for a very quick drive in a prelude, his knuckles turned white he was holding on that ttght and we had to peel him out of the car. |
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| Author: | Archangel007 [ Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:09 pm ] |
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Dicko, Keep the BP-T, as it owes you nothing. Find a good shell, and do the mid-mount rwd beast!! Why be like everyone else? Even if its just a track car, it will be one of a kind, and it will be yours!! If you need help, just holla! Cheers, Tricky P.S. Thanks for the kind words - appreciate it! |
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