I have been throwing ideas back n forth in my mind as to what I want to build in the future, love the A series sound but frankly a pain in the butt to maintain, typical British electrical issues, $$$ to tune for so little gain and the list can go on.

I know I want to build a jap engine mini for reliability and decent performance, at the moment I probably have no intention of making my next one a street registered one and only for club racing events which is why the Zcars kits has caught my imagination.

I am sold on the rear mounted V-Tech kit and I know that drastically changing a mini like such the Zcars that it probably be out of the question to engineer here in Sydney for registered road use, however a friend mentioned to me that if a project goes beyond a certain point in the re-engineering of a car that it could possibly fall under a so called "car kit" category in order to have it engineered for registered road use.

I do intend to seek out an engineer to pose this question but the knowledge of fellow mini enthusiast and mini engine conversion enthusiast I would love to hear and if it turns that that it is completely not possible well then it will only remain for club racing events.

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Roundies Rule !!!

Yes, once you make such major changes it is then considered to be in the same category as a kit car, i.e. a Completely Built Up car.

Be aware that a CBU mini will need to comply with all of the modern regulations, including little things like side indrusion bars, side idicator repeaters, emissions. Do talk to an engineer first to avoid costly mistakes!

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Too many cars, and too little time.

The race spec kit features two diagonal bars for the doors, do they count as introusion bars?

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Roundies Rule !!!

No, but I would suggest they might prevent registration....

Side intrusions bars are simply welding some pipe into the doors.

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But he's thriving and striving and hugging the turns.

not if they don't open with the doors!

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Too many cars, and too little time.

Ive been sent some high resolution pics of the race kit, essentially the two diagonal bars are part of the roll cage, hard to explain unless you see it in flesh.


Can or do engineers look at photos from others work and say "yes", "no" or "this would need to be changed" etc. One can have an idea and try to explain to an engineer what they want to do but pictures tell a thousand words.

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Roundies Rule !!!

Yes, but I would get it in writing!!

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"Not Speeding Officer..........Qualifying"

Here are 3 pics that were sent to me.

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Roundies Rule !!!

F**k putting it in a mini......i'd weld a floor in and drive it like that!

Looks hot

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1962 Morris 850.....with a 1310

1998 Toyota starlet.....161.1hp atw

well if that is what you get i would look into it as building it as an icv.

my husban is looking into build a car at the moment. he has been looking into things like locost 7 replicas which you build a chassis and body and fit out with modern motor. as an icv some of the you don't have to comply with some of the adrs as it's seen as a one off car. there is a fair bit of info around on the net about it. here are some quick links.

you will find the national codes
http://www.dotars.gov.au/roads/safety/index.aspx

here is an engineer with the knowlodge to assist in a build
http://www.vehicleengineering.com.au/index.htm


as for cost it will proably work out cheaper then moding a mini and you will end up with a better setup vehicle. as for a body well most icv fab fibreglass or alloy from scratch but as for a mini you could just bring over a fibreglass shell from the uk and use that.

hope this helps.

shorty

In Qld you'd be better off putting that Z Cars kit into one of those fibreglass mini replica shells and registering it as an ICV. You couldn't use the bike engine though. Use a car engine that is less than 5 years out of production and you're sorted.

M

fark, that's neat.... can you get pics of the front and rear suspension setup?

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did I tell you that I won a trophy?

What does ICV stand for?

I would much rather a Steel shell over a alloy or fibre one.

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Roundies Rule !!!

Individually Constructed Vehicle

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Too many cars, and too little time.

Agreed, steel would be better but here, the DOT have stamped out ICVs that are based on the chassis of another car. People were importing MX-5s that couldn't be registered, putting in a Supra rear sub frame and some non-Mazda engine and registering them as ICVs. The ICV rules are intended for kit cars so a car with virtually no original Morris parts, like a Z-cars frame and fibreglass shell would be OK.

M.