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Nobody seems able to conclusively tell me if Qld has adopted the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Modifications. :cry:

The Qld Department of Transport web site still points to the Qld earlier version of the Code of Practice. One of the authors of the national code told me in Thursday that Qld hadn't adopted it yet and was still working to the old code. The National code, however, states that it has been agreed to by all states and is dated Feb 1, 2006. :?:

I have been looking into it because the Qld code allows 6 point roll cages under certain circumstances while the national code rules them out totally. :evil:

So, I recommend talking to an Authorised Officer (commonly called an engineer, but many aren't) to see which rules he is working to. You may need to write to Qld Transport for permission if it's unclear whether your engine transplant will be legal. :idea:

Author:	hobble [ Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:07 am ]
Post subject:	et pulsar motor in mini
hi all i want to do something different with my mini so i was thinking of a et pulsar motor in it what do you all thinks and if you think of something esle that would be great thanks

Author:	harvey69 [ Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:57 am ]
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the restrictions for minis are... 1.3L turbo 2L N/a anything out side of that is from what i know your best off going for a GTi or a starlet GT conversion.

Author:	9YaTaH [ Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:04 am ]
Post subject:	One size fits all
Measure one up first of all..if it looks like it will fit...then go for it

Author:	sweep77 [ Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:22 am ]
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i'm pretty sure the nissan motor has been done in a roundy in an old Miniworld magazine. Its a very tall motor from memory cause he had a huge bulge in the top of the bonnet. wasn't a turbo version though. It was yellow with blue stripes.

Author:	Tadhg [ Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:49 pm ]
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Hey Harvey, I'm not meaning to be arrogant or rude, but which regs are you referring to for maximum engine sizes? I thought the new national regs were that you multiplied the car's Tare weight by 2.5 to give maximum allowed engine capacity in cc's for a turbo'd or blown engine, or by 3 to for an atmo engine. At least that's what they're telling me up here in Queensland (the conversion I'm doing is on a Minor, not a Mini. But they're still classified the same way). Here's a link to the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification - http://www.dotars.gov.au/roads/safety/b ... _ncop.aspx . Given the Mini's at least 617kg, that would give you a maximum of at least 1542.5cc blown or 1851cc atmo. It all depends on the Tare weight advertised for your car's year. If you have a car that has a published weight (from BMC/Leyland) as being greater than 640kg, my reading would be that you could have a 4A-GZE in there (if you could fit it!). Maybe you could point me in the right direction if I'm wrong..?

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Author:	Mini Mad [ Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:53 pm ]
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^^^ This is correct - 1.6L Turbo is generally ok depending on weight. The reason most go 1.3L Turbo's is because of their size and weight, a 1.6L turbo is IMO too big for a mini - they are alot bigger and heavier and upset the balance of the car.

Author:	Tadhg [ Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:08 pm ]
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I can understand that throwing in a bigger engine is always going to have negative effects! I was just wondering about those numbers, if they were in a register somewhere, or similar. Because it means that the 2.0L Vauxhall (Holden Family II, as found in Astras, Vectras, etc) would be illegal here. Although the Honda 1.8 is still legal. I just wonder about the new L15A VTEC engine, out of the Jazz, whether they might become a good option... Being a 1500, they'd be legal to turbo. They're a bit like the old A series, in that they have an incredibly long stroke, so they should have good torque, but they're a VTEC engine and are supposed to rev well... We'll watch and see how the future unfolds.

Author:	Mokesta [ Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:44 pm ]
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Nobody seems able to conclusively tell me if Qld has adopted the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Modifications. The Qld Department of Transport web site still points to the Qld earlier version of the Code of Practice. One of the authors of the national code told me in Thursday that Qld hadn't adopted it yet and was still working to the old code. The National code, however, states that it has been agreed to by all states and is dated Feb 1, 2006. I have been looking into it because the Qld code allows 6 point roll cages under certain circumstances while the national code rules them out totally. So, I recommend talking to an Authorised Officer (commonly called an engineer, but many aren't) to see which rules he is working to. You may need to write to Qld Transport for permission if it's unclear whether your engine transplant will be legal. M

Author:	Tadhg [ Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:17 pm ]
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Don't worry, Mokesta, by the time I finish my Minor conversion, the new National Regs will almost be out of date, at the rate I'm going... I spoke to the DOT boys in Fortitude Valley. They gave me a list of "Approved Persons" - full engineers, with full accreditation, not just people who might be able to certify only one of the mods, and they told me that Qld had changed over. That was a few months ago (August..?). Could be wrong. But, like I said...

Author:	Archangel007 [ Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:54 am ]
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Mokesta wrote: Nobody seems able to conclusively tell me if Qld has adopted the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Modifications. The Qld Department of Transport web site still points to the Qld earlier version of the Code of Practice. One of the authors of the national code told me in Thursday that Qld hadn't adopted it yet and was still working to the old code. The National code, however, states that it has been agreed to by all states and is dated Feb 1, 2006. I have been looking into it because the Qld code allows 6 point roll cages under certain circumstances while the national code rules them out totally. So, I recommend talking to an Authorised Officer (commonly called an engineer, but many aren't) to see which rules he is working to. You may need to write to Qld Transport for permission if it's unclear whether your engine transplant will be legal. M Quite correct Mokesta on both accounts. All states and territories have ratified the DOTARS legislation as the National code for vehicles in Australia. However, there havebeen delays with all States coming on line with the new system. Firstly, we were supposed to have the National code coming into affect on July 1st, 2006, then January 1st 2007.......now they havent put a date to it at all but looks likely to come into force January 1st 2008 whether the States are ready or not. It seems NT and Vic have been the main culprits in the delay! Cheers, Tricky

Author:	simon k [ Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:44 am ]
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Archangel007 wrote: It seems NT and Vic have been the main culprits in the delay! Cheers, Tricky woo hooo!! go Victoria!!

Author:	slinkey inc [ Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:58 am ]
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SA doesn't seem to know anything about all of this. Me thinks this antional thing is not going to owrk with states like ours, don't see it coming in next year or the year after, and so on. We'll see though.

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