I am building a 74 clubby, steel sided van, bodykit, 13 by 7" wheels etc etc. I've talked to "QIK Brix Racing" and he said "roughly $2500 For that he builds the subframe, build the engine mounts, install the engine, redo the suspension components, and install the suspension"including engineer cert and driveshaft mods to suit mini outer CV's, plus the 1/2 cut @ my cost.

How much did yous pay for your Toyota Stalet GT 1/2 cuts?
and is that a fairly good price for all that work?

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Respect mine and I'll respect yours.

That is a BRILLIANT price for the work. For a start, he's done lots before, so you don't have to worry that you are paying him to learn. Then, you also know you'll get it done quickly. And, you get through the engineer certification without worrying about being knocked back. Oh, and it won't break!

Personally, if I was using up my weekends to build subframes for strangers, I would charge double what Andy does. It's almost charity at that rate.

M.

That's really cheap.

Half cut - Around $1500-2500

There are alot of extra costs there though to finish a car once it gets to that point..

- Wiring
- Brakes
- Radiator(s)
- Exhaust
- Plumbing
- Fuel Lines
- New Fuel Tank and/or Modify old one
- Gear Linkage

You have to decide whether you want to keep it top mount or upgrade the turbo or leave it standard etc..

Getting the engine in the car is the easy part

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Starlet Conversion:
http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15484

I worked out around 8 grand for me. To an already nice mini (no paint or body work, just toyota mod)

But it all went to crap when I found out I can't get a motor with ECU. Well I can but it's 150,000kms and $2450 (front cut) or $3600 with a spare motor (no ecu) of unknown milage, which is very expensive compared to what other's in SA have paid for thier engines.

Subframe I can get done for a grand, but still need engineering. Plus guages, drive shafts, radiator and everything else it adds up.

And if I worked out that it would cost 8 grand that probably means 10.

It's worth it if you intend to keep the car, I don't think i'm willing to go into this (which I had planned too), instead I'm looking at other unfinished projects of other cars around the place.

The best setup I've see is the K series Vtec from USA, only problem is it makes your front track wider, not sure about engineering that. . K series is highly powered, but I think they are expensive and they only come in 2 or 2.2 litre (too big!). BUt the kit (althought fairly expensive, $2500US) comes with chromoly drive shafts, the kit has many hidden cost.


Overall, kenno, I reckon your doing good. Although I've seen a Qik Brix racing subby for a suzuki swift gti motor and thought it looked dodgy, but that might be an old version or the starlet one might be tons better.

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1964 Morris 850, 1330 Supercharged - 81.8hp atws.
1975 Leyland Mini S 1100S powered - Nice and reliable.
1977 Leyland Mini LS - Project LS-T

Seems reasonable then that I would sell a QBR subframe and front cut with everything you need for $5k then........

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But he's thriving and striving and hugging the turns.

I 'spose to some other people it might have seemed reasonable.

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1964 Morris 850, 1330 Supercharged - 81.8hp atws.
1975 Leyland Mini S 1100S powered - Nice and reliable.
1977 Leyland Mini LS - Project LS-T

I got a quote from Mr Enforcer for about $10,300, subframe, electrics, brakes everything

You just need a mini and a front cut

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67 Deluxe under going full resto

Anyone that is going to make you a subframe for $1000 is either:

A) Not going to give it the attention it requires and come up with something that isn't worth having.

B) On a short course to bankruptcy

C) Losing money on the deal "because he's a mate".

A subframe to build is going to take one person AT LEAST 4 full days labour with another person helping them on occassion. A competent welder is going to be charging a minimum of $50p/h. Then of course you have materials. Oh and a jig. I forgot the jig. Add another 2 days labour.

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But he's thriving and striving and hugging the turns.

*comments withdrawn*

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real men race downhill - keiichi tsuchiya

Having been involved with the building of about 8 subframes now, I'm well aware of the process and the time taken on each one.

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But he's thriving and striving and hugging the turns.

*again withdrawn*

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real men race downhill - keiichi tsuchiya

A few hours to make a subframe

Yes Dan, my comments exactly!!

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"Not Speeding Officer..........Qualifying"

my point is, if you had all your metalwork ready to go, a jig etc and you had made a frame before (know which part to weld first), how long would the welding actually take? no breaks included

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real men race downhill - keiichi tsuchiya

I bet it didn't take the factory 4 days per subframe.

Tim