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Mendoza Mechanical's VTEC Subframe is finished!
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Author:  KennyKix [ Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:32 am ]
Post subject:  Mendoza Mechanical's VTEC Subframe is finished!
Hey all,

Just letting you know of a closer alternative VTEC subframe. Its in NZ!
The place is Mendoza Mechanical
Direct URL for the frame is here.

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Cya!
Author:  DRB33N [ Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:50 am ]
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Me want one :D :D :D
Author:  feralsprint [ Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:52 am ]
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well that looks good and the price is pretty good, the only worry is getting an engineer to sign off on it, there is some homework to be done on it like what material the tube is. mild steel tube will not be passed in this country unless it is of suitable seamless tube wuith the right wall thickness and as it also uses non standard lower arms and tie bars they will also need to be checked, I am sure the NZ maker will have all the info on materials but check with your state engineer what he will need first :D

Jon
Author:  DRB33N [ Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:59 am ]
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One question, where would the tow hooks mount too?
Author:  harvey69 [ Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:03 am ]
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looks like a good kit....

cheepish, not too far away to ship it
Author:  awdmoke [ Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:38 pm ]
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Well developed kit, still needs the body lenghtened 90mm for a roundy though
Author:  DRB33N [ Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:58 pm ]
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Normally the front end of the mini is bolted to the front part of the original subframe, in this case it is not. Do you guys think that the front part of the body will rattle while engine is running and or driving?
Author:  Mokesta [ Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:18 pm ]
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It looks well built from what we can see and I like the idea of the loawer A arms.

But, I reckon it could be a bit flexible, that front A-arm mount may move side to side while cornering a bit much for me and there is no excuse for a single sided A-arm mount.
Author:  DRB33N [ Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:03 am ]
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feralsprint wrote:
there is some homework to be done on it like what material the tube is. mild steel tube will not be passed in this country unless it is of suitable seamless tube wuith the right wall thickness

Jon


When you say mild steel won't pass in Australia is that particualy concerned with Street Registered vechicles? And would it apply to non registered race cars?
Author:  feralsprint [ Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:44 pm ]
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It is a case of suck it and see, building a whole new subframe like this is different to modifying a subframe, the certifying engineer is actually going to have to be very sure of the strength of the new mountings in a complete subframe as its his responsibilty to say that the new frame and mounts can go through the million of twist and stress cycles that he is supposed to cary out( to destruction ) so if the worst happens an accident that injures someone and its proved to be caused by the mod he has signed off on his insurance is the one that has to cover it, when you just modify a subfame and still use the original major mounting point at the top and rear of the subframe he can be a little more forgiving because the original manufacture has done the design and testing.

As for a race car do what you like, there is no requirements or standards except for rollcages

Jon
Author:  mickmini [ Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:42 pm ]
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feralsprint wrote:
As for a race car do what you like, there is no requirements or standards except for rollcages

Jon


except it is the race driver/entrant/builder who bears the full responsibility for fronting up with a safe car. if it all goes pear shaped in a race (never happen i hear you say) and you end up killing someone because of the mods you made to your race car.......remember insurance is not there to pay if you stuff up, when you buy insurance you sell them the right to chase up someone else to pay for your stuff up....and that includes life insurance policies or the circuit or clubs liability insurance.

anyway, if the subframe is not up to scratch in terms of stiffness, the car will be a dog to race
Author:  DRB33N [ Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:18 pm ]
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So, getting back to Jap engine conversions that retain the original subframe but with added modification what is the popular choice and the one with the least amount of hassles?
Author:  feralsprint [ Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:48 pm ]
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DRB33N wrote:
So, getting back to Jap engine conversions that retain the original subframe but with added modification what is the popular choice and the one with the least amount of hassles?



you will have to check with whoever is going to be your certifying engineer, each one will be a little different so the best thing is to find your engineer first and talk it over with him/her

As for race cars and who's liable for what if you have a look at any ticket it will say on the back Motor Sport is dangerous and have a disclaimer and there will be a signs around the circuit saying the same things, the rules for safety are about driver safety and the officials are covered by the track insurance, spectators as they say can please themselves :D

Jon
Author:  mickmini [ Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:01 pm ]
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yep it pays to get involved in driving and officialling, and not just go for a bopeep :lol:


apparently MrEnforcer is popular, having done a couple already. do a search on here for that and read the threads various............
Author:  DRB33N [ Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:43 pm ]
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I have seen enforcers website, anyway this is a project down the track not something i am planing to do right now.
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