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| Author: | MiniGT [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:41 am ] |
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Does any one know if you need to keep the cannister when your are putting in a replacement engine(4EFTE)? |
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| Author: | minstar [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:12 am ] |
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I was told no by my engineer but the general rule is that if the engine came with emissions gear such as a charcoal cannister then it need to keep much the same as the catalytic converter. Cheers Matt |
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| Author: | 92 [ Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:13 pm ] |
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As Minstar said If the engine or car has one from the factory then you need one fitted when doing my conversion I needed to retain all emission gear like charcoal canaster catalitic converer |
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| Author: | gzeVan [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:46 am ] |
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my mini had emissions gear on it before and one of them was a breather for the tank which i still have, so the canister is still used for that most modern motors run that clean in standard form i think it would still pass the test without, until you start big mods (more fuel and boost) |
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| Author: | Archangel007 [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:58 am ] |
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MiniGT, I was told by my engineer that it has to go back in. No canister, no certificate - simple. Mine is going in the boot, as there is no room upfront. Regards, Andrew |
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| Author: | MiniGT [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:14 pm ] |
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Excuse my ignorance, but how do you put it in the boot? do you have to run another line to the intake manifold? I was wondering if i could but it in the boot, just wasn't sure how?? The enginner i'm working with is a real @#$#%$  so i'm guessing i'm going to need to leave the cannister in
cheers guys |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:25 pm ] |
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The charcoal canister is not connected to the inlet manifold.. It is there on a late Mini to neutralise hydrocarbons (fuel vapours) from the fuel tank and the float bowl, the rocker cover vent DRAWS air from it too- but the engine vapours then get drawn into the SU's suction chamber. 
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| Author: | HPDesign [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:29 pm ] |
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If your engineer is a $%^&%WIT then get someone else it's a free country and an engineer is there to provide advice and mounting the canister in the boot juist involves lengthening the pipes to and from the canister so that it remain's connected to the original places but can be placed in the boot. their is mixed oppinion on using carbon canisters and Catalytic Converters (along with other pollution gear) I have dealt with a few that are of the oppinion that anything's better for the enviroment than a clapped out old a series so they don't go hard about pollution gear 
Every engineer will aproach it from a different angle..... Their's a few ways to skin a cat...not that I would know hope this helps |
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| Author: | minstar [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:33 pm ] |
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This will probably stir things up. But as stated previously my engineer indicated no need for the cat converter. Seems to do with being a 71 model. He wrote it on his own letterhead which I keep in the car in case someone argues the toss. Cheers Matt |
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| Author: | miniboy1962 [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:26 pm ] |
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Who is this engineer you are using Minstar !!! If only i could come up to the ACT and get it engineered up there. I hear horror stories of people having massive amounts of trouble with engineers and heres yours saying you dont need a catalytic converter!! I suppose the ACT make it up in the registering department... |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:44 pm ] |
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miniboy1962 wrote: Who is this engineer you are using Minstar !!! If only i could come up to the ACT and get it engineered up there. I hear horror stories of people having massive amounts of trouble with engineers and heres yours saying you dont need a catalytic converter!! I suppose the ACT make it up in the registering department...
Pretty sure Brad (13secmini) got told the same here in NSW. But his car is 1972 I think. |
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| Author: | miniboy1962 [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:11 pm ] |
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So what you guys are saying is that you dont need any polution gear at all as long as the original car didn't come out with it. I thought it came down to the engine on these sort of things. If not then surely doing this in a 60 something mini should be no trouble at all. |
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| Author: | mini_matt [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | charcoal |
but some places you have to adhere to the emission rulings on the what ever is most up to date. in this case the starlet engine. it all depends |
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| Author: | feralsprint [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:33 am ] |
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miniboy1962 wrote: Who is this engineer you are using Minstar !!! If only i could come up to the ACT and get it engineered up there. I hear horror stories of people having massive amounts of trouble with engineers and heres yours saying you dont need a catalytic converter!! I suppose the ACT make it up in the registering department...
I think Matt used John Wilson AKZ vehicle engineering and he is able to do NSW rego cars as he is from NSW and on the list of approved engineers for all Australia on the DOTAR site, he is very good and a car nut himself Jon |
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| Author: | MiniGT [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:34 pm ] |
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Surely there are some rules or guidelines. It can't just be up to the engineers opinion can it? that just seems really dodgy... but if so i can i get your engineers contact if he's qualified for NSW as well.
cheers PIerre |
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