Just a thought.
Has anyone come accross an airbagged mini?
It looks like it should work, but have been told it is impossible.
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| Author: | Qship [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:01 pm ] |
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Just a thought. Has anyone come accross an airbagged mini?
It looks like it should work, but have been told it is impossible.
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| Author: | simon k [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:53 pm ] |
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try this one... http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic ... aulic+pimp I've heard that it can't be done because the airbags you can buy are too big, but there's a mob in Wagga who I'm sure would be able to tell you categorically. He runs a mod shop, and has a little suzuki van he was demoing the suspension on, parked next to the cut down van with a huge V8 in it that's apparently a regular at summernats - one of the wagga guys (Bromley) will give you details if you want |
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| Author: | Morris 1100 [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:55 pm ] |
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It could be done but the question is why? 
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| Author: | simon k [ Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:10 pm ] |
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do it to that 1100 in your avatar so it doesn't hit the ground so hard |
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| Author: | Gordo [ Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:41 am ] |
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It could be done but the list of mods will go on and on... They would have to make up some sort of bracket that ataches to the rear trailing arm to hold the bags.. And for the front who knows? Aparently the bags are just too wide to fit where the mini suspension system fits... The bag would have to be like 100mm max to fit in there...??? |
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| Author: | miniza [ Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:39 pm ] |
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http://www.rayvernhydraulics.com/ these guys have a pre fabbed kit for the mini, no pics on their site tho, |
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| Author: | Gordo [ Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:51 pm ] |
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miniza wrote: http://www.rayvernhydraulics.com/
these guys have a pre fabbed kit for the mini, no pics on their site tho, This kit is a hydraulic kit not an airbag suspension kit... Same but different |
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| Author: | Qship [ Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:06 pm ] |
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Gordo wrote: miniza wrote: http://www.rayvernhydraulics.com/ these guys have a pre fabbed kit for the mini, no pics on their site tho, This kit is a hydraulic kit not an airbag suspension kit... Same but different Hydraulics would be just as much fun though!! Pitty no pics on that site!! |
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| Author: | simon k [ Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:52 pm ] |
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so which is the one that makes cars jump up and down - air or hydraulic ? that rayvern site lists a kit for hillman imp, there's a link for it, but it links to a honda prelude  I wanted to see pictures oif the imp!, they also list a jensen interceptor - kewl 
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| Author: | Gordo [ Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:07 pm ] |
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They can both make you car bounce.. Aparently the air suspension give a soft floating like ride, sorta defeats the purpose onputting it in a mini, it will totally screw up the handling... |
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| Author: | Qship [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:33 pm ] |
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I've found it!!!! It's not a bag it's a can? The whole setup is the same, the cans are new on the market and are similar to a coil over shock, but without a spring. The best advantage over a bag is that it will not compromise the handling characteristics of the mini, and from my understanding you should be able to harden or soften the ride by regulating the air. And jumping, it should get the front of the mini a good foot of the ground without much trouble. GOODSHOW!!! |
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| Author: | simon k [ Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:32 am ] |
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Qship wrote: I've found it!!!! It's not a bag it's a can? The whole setup is the same, the cans are new on the market and are similar to a coil over shock, but without a spring. The best advantage over a bag is that it will not compromise the handling characteristics of the mini, and from my understanding you should be able to harden or soften the ride by regulating the air.
And jumping, it should get the front of the mini a good foot of the ground without much trouble. GOODSHOW!!! so does it replace the rubber cone/hydro unit (in the same location), or do you fit them instead of the telescopic dampers... if it's the latter, make sure you do lots of reinforcement on those mounts otherwise the first jump and they'll tear out! 
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| Author: | Qship [ Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:54 pm ] |
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skssgn wrote: Qship wrote: I've found it!!!! It's not a bag it's a can? The whole setup is the same, the cans are new on the market and are similar to a coil over shock, but without a spring. The best advantage over a bag is that it will not compromise the handling characteristics of the mini, and from my understanding you should be able to harden or soften the ride by regulating the air. And jumping, it should get the front of the mini a good foot of the ground without much trouble. GOODSHOW!!! so does it replace the rubber cone/hydro unit (in the same location), or do you fit them instead of the telescopic dampers... if it's the latter, make sure you do lots of reinforcement on those mounts otherwise the first jump and they'll tear out! In the front it would replace the cone/hydro unit with minimal fuss or mods. In the rear though you would have to, strenghten the mounting points top and bottom where you would usually mount the damper. (or as you say first jump, you'd have them poking up through the rear parcel shelf) also the can is 80mm in diameter, you would have to make room for it behind the rear wheels. Dampers would only be what..? 35-40mm at a guess. And that would be the hard part, other than that you just have to fit a tank, valves, gauges, a switch box and run your air hose. You've gotta admit it would be cool!! |
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| Author: | Morris 1100 [ Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:52 pm ] |
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So lets get this straight.... At the front you are going to remove the standard rubber spring or hydro unit and at the rear you are going to mount it direct between the body and the trailing arm. Sounds like you have given this a lot of thought.
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| Author: | harvey69 [ Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:13 pm ] |
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soo tempting |
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