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Author:  Chris [ Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:28 pm ]
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A mate of mine is putting a turboed 13b rotor in a Gemini Panel van and has been having a few hassles getting it engineered but got the final go ahead two days ago. While he has been talking to the engineer about all this it has come to light that the RTA have been re inspecting converted cars and pulling the plates on any they don't like. This happened in Wollongong recently to a fully engineered and blue slipped car that has been on the road for 8 months. The reason? They said the motor was to large for the car, It was a rotor but I am not sure what it was in. The only reason my mate got his through was it is a commercial vehicle and not subject to the same regs as a sedan. So be aware even though a car can be engineered and blue slipped it can be revued at any time and if they don't like it you will not be driving it. Personally in view of this I would be very wary of how far I would push the rules.
Author:  h0nk [ Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:25 am ]
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That sounds very dodgy to me.. Most mini conversion should be fine though.. most people put a 1.3litre engine in their mini.. which isnt actually much larger then a mini engine... so they can't really say it's too big for the car.
Author:  mad-mk1 [ Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:39 am ]
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wats with all the gay rules lately this and then the other topic about brake painting geez
Author:  Maxi23 [ Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:11 pm ]
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~wonders if its a conspiracy between government and car manufactures~
Author:  manofaus [ Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:44 pm ]
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its a well known fact that it is cheaper to repair a vehicle for up to 15 years then it would to be to replace it after 5 years.
Author:  Chris [ Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:59 pm ]
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I have found out a bit more today on what the RTA are doing. I take this as pretty good information as this person has been done a number of engine conversions.
Apparently there has been a national standard implemented using a power to weight ratio for all converted vehicles (did Victoria have this?) and NSW and the RTA in NSW is going through their available data on all converted cars and re-inspecting those they think do not comply. I am only passing this on as I have been told the story and for what that is worth. Forewarned is forearmed so to speak.
Author:  Mokesta [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:06 am ]
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I've put this up before:

http://www.dotars.gov.au/transreg/vsb/vsb_ncop.aspx

This is the draft national code of practice for vehicle modifications. All state rules will be replaced by this, or very similar, in the near future. Good for Qld owners who've had very strict rules but bad for NSW where almost anything goes.

M
Author:  feralsprint [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:48 am ]
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mokesta

sorry to tell you this but NSW has been using those rules for over a year now, these rues are based on the NSW system which has been the only state to adopt the national rules(butits all a crock anyway and just another way for the carmakers to screw the little guy)the only state its really going to effect are WA and the ACT for the construction of new ICVs ( clubman sportscars ), the hard part for QLD is that they can ask for testing to be carried out that can not be done up there because you don't have a car building industry, like the IM240 emisions test, you have to bring the car to Sydney to get the 4 minute test done :lol:

Jon
Author:  bnicho [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:47 pm ]
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Are you sure it is true that they are de-registering these cars?

Once a car is engineered and blue slipped (provided it is not further modified!), I don't think they could legally deregister it as the laws are not back-dated. I'd sue the RTA for compensation if they tried to do that to a car I owned. :twisted:
Author:  Chris [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:48 pm ]
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bnicho wrote:
Are you sure it is true that they are de-registering these cars?

Once a car is engineered and blue slipped (provided it is not further modified!), I don't think they could legally deregister it as the laws are not back-dated. I'd sue the RTA for compensation if they tried to do that to a car I owned. :twisted:


Easy to say. Just try it with barristers costing $3000.00 a day and that is after the thousands to get it into court. I could see 50k easy in a court case such as this. In the end the RTA are a law unto themselves and very little touches them. Even the tunnel saga had little effect.
Author:  bnicho [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:15 am ]
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What tunnel saga?

I'm sure a class action if the RTA are doing this without legal right (ie: the laws are not back-dated) would win. Slater and Gordon or one of those dodgy ones would probably take it on.
Author:  Chris [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:31 am ]
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bnicho wrote:
What tunnel saga?

I'm sure a class action if the RTA are doing this without legal right (ie: the laws are not back-dated) would win. Slater and Gordon or one of those dodgy ones would probably take it on.


They wouldn'y touch it with a barge pole. After all the publicity of modified cars and the carnage they have caused in recent times it would not be good for their image. The general demographic of those who are involved in doing this sort of modification would make them run away at high speed I would think.
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